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Michelle Tanner's political identity underwent a dramatic transformation overnight – from being labeled an "extreme right-wing conspiracy theorist" to a "satan worshiping establishment RINO." This fascinating shift occurred during Utah's recent GOP Chair race, where Tanner supported Rob Axson despite having previously backed Phil Lyman for governor, revealing the complex dynamics of local Republican politics.

The conversation peels back layers of Utah's political landscape, examining how the caucus convention system works and why Tanner believes Axson has done more to preserve it than any chair since SB54's implementation. She offers an insider's perspective on the strategic branding attempts during the convention and why collaboration is essential despite ideological differences.

Shifting to her role on the St. George City Council, Tanner recounts her fight to transform the budget process from administrative "sales pitches" to genuine collaboration focusing on public safety priorities. Her stand against automatic tax increases led to significant changes in city governance, demonstrating how principled opposition can create positive systemic change. The budget discussion extends to broader concerns about energy infrastructure, economic diversification as construction slows, and balancing property rights with responsible planning.

Throughout the episode, Tanner reveals her governing philosophy of "principle over popularity," acknowledging she's offended both the right and left by refusing to be boxed into partisan categories. Her willingness to work across divides while maintaining core values offers valuable insights for anyone navigating today's polarized political environment. As she announces her re-election campaign, Tanner emphasizes that while progress has been made, "the work isn't done yet."

What makes local politics so fascinating is how it forces officials to move beyond ideological labels to solve real problems affecting communities. Whether discussing drag shows, Dixie name changes, or budget priorities, Tanner demonstrates how effective governance requires finding common ground without abandoning core principles.

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[00:00:00] Intro.
[00:08:29] Caucus Politics: SB54 and Convention System.
[00:15:42] Utah GOP Chair Race: Rob vs. Phil.
[00:32:40] City Budget Process: Fighting for Transparency.
[00:42:17] Balancing Property Rights and City Planning.
[01:07:16] Campaign Announcement: Michelle Tanner Runs Again.

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What does it mean when a community evolves? From Farmstead's transformation into Bonrue Bakery to the complex urban planning challenges facing St. George, this conversation explores how Southern Utah is navigating its adolescence as a growing region.

Chris Conners shares his entrepreneurial journey, including how his French-inspired bakery found its footing in downtown St. George and the unexpected positive response to rebranding. His story illuminates the broader evolution happening across our community – businesses creating other businesses, talent attracting more talent, and new ideas reshaping what it means to live in this desert landscape.

The discussion dives deep into the barriers preventing innovative solutions to housing and transportation challenges. With over 16 different residential zoning classifications alone, even experienced developers spend countless hours navigating regulations that often prevent common-sense development. As City Council member Danielle Larkin notes, "People are fearful. Change feels scary, it feels threatening." Yet this fear often leads to contradictions – residents simultaneously want charming, walkable neighborhoods while opposing the very zoning changes that would create them.

Perhaps most fascinating is the exploration of how self-driving vehicles will transform St. George within the next decade. Are we investing millions in parking structures and road infrastructure that may become obsolete? As one participant observes about his nine-year-old son's reaction to autonomous vehicles: "He's like, 'Why would I ever have to drive a car?' And I think as a kid I was so excited to drive a car because self-driving wasn't an option."

Join us for this thought-provoking conversation about finding balance between preservation and progress, between suburban comfort and urban vitality, and between the St. George of yesterday and the community we're building for tomorrow. Subscribe to the 435 Podcast for more insights into the people and ideas shaping Southern Utah.

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[00:00:00] Intro.
[00:10:45] Bonrue Bakery: The Rebranding Story.
[00:26:25] Growth Challenges in St. George History.
[00:41:20] Downtown Development and Public Perception.
[01:00:32] Zoning Restrictions and Urban Planning Issues.
[01:18:25] Transportation Evolution and Self-Driving Future.
[01:32:40] Housing Solutions and Downtown Redevelopment.

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Government regulation in the energy sector has created significant challenges for local power companies over the past two decades, while clean coal technology developments have been largely overlooked in policy decisions.

• 2005 Energy Policy Act disrupted reliability projects in Washington County for almost 15 years
• Modern coal plants in Utah operate at 90% below EPA emission standards using three-stage filtration technology
• Coal power generates electricity at 2-3 cents per kilowatt-hour compared to 6 cents for natural gas
• China building 1-2 coal plants weekly while US reduces production, effectively outsourcing emissions
• Prosperity enables environmental protection while energy poverty forces dirtier alternatives like wood burning
• Future energy mix likely includes maintained coal plants, natural gas, potential nuclear if licensing hurdles overcome
• Innovative geothermal technology using fracking techniques shows promise as clean energy source
• Small modular nuclear reactors could provide reliable power if regulatory barriers addressed
• Washington County utilities working to build more distributed generation to improve reliability

Guest: Colin Jack

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[00:00:00] Intro.
[00:00:51] Introduction to Energy Policy and Dixie Power.
[00:05:41] The 2005 Energy Policy Act's Impact.
[00:16:12] Coal Power Plants and Emissions Controls.
[00:30:14] The Climate Change Debate.
[00:45:12] Coal vs. Natural Gas Economics.
[00:59:46] The Future of Energy in Southern Utah.
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