On today's very special episode of Stupid Little Games, Jess chats with true Brooklyn creative Mike Varley: video game producer, award-winning multi-media artist, and professional bagel eater!

They discuss the latent political power of gamers, the traits that can make you a successful producer, and how to walk 7000 miles without dying. Then they play a Stupid Little Game that asks how long it takes to walk from Kakariko Village to Hyrule Castle.

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Special thanks to today's sponsors:

Phantoms, Ghosts, & Other Heartbreaks - a debut novel by Beth Morton. You can find it on Amazon paperback and kindle. Available now!

Outreach Program - the sophomore album by Brooklyn indie rock band Social Robot. Visit socialrobotmusic.com for more info!

And you can check out some of Mike's amazing projects: HIghleyVarlet.com; EverythingisEverything.nyc, and the Total Clarity Podcast!

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Stupid Little Games is a podcast all about gaming from the inside out!

Each week, I (Jess Pardue) sit down with an insider from various parts of the gaming industry, from indie to AAA. We talk about our current gaming obsessions, tell stories from projects past and present, and then play a Stupid Little Game I write especially for each guest.