Area/Topic
Worldwide, Central Asia, Middle East

Marc Leaderman
Product & Operations Director
Wild Frontiers Adventure Travel

When I was younger we never journeyed anywhere as a family, so my love of travel really started at university when I spent one summer teaching English in Romania, in what turned out to be one of the most transformative trips I have ever experienced. It was just after the fall of communism and it was a real eye-opener for me to see people, the same age as me, living such different lifestyles - something I’d only really glimpsed on the news. They had all lived through the turmoil and violence of the events of 1989, so meeting them and hearing their stories really piqued my interest in the wider world.

After graduating, I taught English in Japan and then I went to Australia, where I spent some time as a door-to-door salesman. When I eventually came home, it was short-lived - I spent the next ten years as a UK tax-exile, tour-leading in over 60 countries from North Korea to Mali. On one occasion where I returned to London, I met Jonny. I thought I’d been to some of the most adventurous places out there before I met him! I attended one of Jonny’s talks on Afghanistan and he thought I was spying for a rival travel company, but I was just interested in what Wild Frontiers did and now I head up the Product and Operations department (and also, regrettably, have to pay tax!)

With my product hat on, I’m always looking at new areas to which we can travel - a role which is endlessly exciting, especially as the world changes. It’s important that we keep that Wild Frontiers’ edge on emerging destinations. But it’s also about visiting familiar places in new ways.

From the operational side, it’s really about managing the constant challenges that come up on tours, the ever changing rules and regulations and just making sure that everything on the road happens as planned. It’s no easy task and assuredly a 24/7 job as we will almost always have several clients travelling at any given time to one of the 90+ destinations we offer.

https://www.wildfrontierstravel.com/

summary
In this conversation, Jason Elkins interviews Marc Leaderman, the product and operations director for Wild Frontiers Adventure Travel. Marc shares his journey from a childhood with limited travel experiences to becoming a tour leader and exploring different countries. He talks about the importance of pushing boundaries and trying new things, as well as the impact of travel on one's perspective and happiness. They also discuss the changes in the travel industry over the years, including the use of technology and the challenges of staying present with clients. In this conversation, Marc shares his experiences as a tour guide and the challenges of balancing customer expectations with sustainable tourism practices. He discusses the importance of finding a balance between popular tourist attractions and off-the-beaten-path experiences. Marc also highlights the impact of technology and social media on the rapid growth of new destinations and the challenges of over-tourism. He emphasizes the need for respect and collaboration with local communities and the responsibility of tour operators to provide a positive and sustainable travel experience. Marc concludes by sharing the power of travel in fostering understanding and breaking down cultural barriers.

takeaways

• Travel experiences can have a profound impact on one's perspective and happiness.
• Pushing boundaries and trying new things can lead to personal growth and self-dis

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