(0:00) Friedberg and Chamath welcome Senator Ron Johnson

(2:30) The Reconciliation Bill process, how much the Big, Beautiful Bill will add to the national debt

(14:33) Problems with growing our way out of debt, why elected officials are avoiding the fiscal reality

(24:53) Energy rescissions, future of DOGE

(32:09) How Senator Johnson will force a real review of the Big, Beautiful Bill; future of MAGA and the Conservative movement

(54:15) Next steps if the Big, Beautiful Bill passes

(58:35) Post-interview recap

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(0:00) Today's topics and bestie intros!

(2:49) Bond market chaos, GOP abandons DOGE, Trump's big, beautiful bill passes the House

(38:15) Google's big week: AI in search, roadmap to diversifying revenue

(46:49) OpenAI acquires Jony Ive's design startup for $6.5B

(57:09) AI Diplomacy: Sacks breaks down his trip to the Middle East and the datacenter deals

(1:15:25) Science Corner: CRISPR breakthrough!

(1:23:02) How increased energy production could solve America's fiscal problems

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Referenced in the show:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/20-year-treasury-bond-auction-bba9d889

https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y

https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1925253934794342405

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&window=5D

https://www.pgpf.org/article/moodys-downgraded-its-us-credit-rating-and-warns-that-recent-policy-decisions-will-worsen-fiscal-outlook/

https://x.com/JessicaBRiedl/status/1925257429408756087

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BTC-USD

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GCW00:COMEX

https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2025?tid=1747933765493

https://x.com/chamath/status/1925568992959492156

https://x.com/chamath/status/1925590496103342114

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GOOG:NASDAQ

https://blog.google/products/google-one/google-ai-ultra

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/what-sam-altman-told-openai-about-the-secret-device-hes-making-with-jony-ive-f1384005

https://x.com/BenGeskin/status/1925579528933372198

https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1924817118370951238

https://mcigroup.my/top-news/malaysia-launches-regions-first-sovereign-full-stack-ai-infrastructure

(0:00) The Besties welcome Antonio Gracias!

(0:30) DOGE updates: Government complexity worse than imagined, how to fix it

(9:00) Talent acquisition: How Elon attracted 10x engineers for DOGE, a better model for civil service

(15:54) Voter fraud findings: illegal immigrants voting in elections, building a zero-defect voting system

(22:12) Fixing immigration in the US

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