Ever wondered what it takes to navigate the tumultuous waters of political life while balancing a family? Former Chief of Staff for Oregon Governor Kate Brown, Gina Zejdlick, joins us to recount her gripping journey from the Secretary of State's office to the governor's inner circle amid the resignation of Governor Kitzhaber. Joe and Cody humorously reminisce about the early days when Gina barely acknowledged Joe in the governor's security detail, setting the stage for an episode filled with laughs, insights, and behind-the-scenes stories.

Gina opens up about her educational and career path, starting from law school and a stint in the judicial department to her unexpected dive into the legislature. Despite her nonpartisan beginnings, Gina gradually immersed herself in the Democratic Party, navigating the complexities of working with argumentative colleagues and the high-pressure roles that followed. Hear her advice on the importance of timing, preparation, and having a supportive team, which are crucial for anyone aspiring to thrive in a political career.

We shift gears to explore groundbreaking environmental innovations with Gina's insights into a Swiss startup revolutionizing the fertilizer industry. Discover how producing fertilizer without fossil fuels can bring price stability and energy independence, especially amid global challenges like the war in Ukraine. Wrapping up with gratitude for our special guest, Cody, this episode promises a blend of personal anecdotes, professional wisdom, and a touch of humor, making it a must-listen for those fascinated by political life and sustainable advancements.