Stephen Van Hooser joins Judd for episode five of our addiction series—bringing a powerful, personal conversation that unpacks the true nature of addiction and the pathways to recovery. Drawing from his own experience as both a patient and a leader in substance abuse treatment, Stephen offers deep insights into how trauma, disconnection, and unmet mental health needs drive addictive behaviors.

During their conversation Stephen introduces listeners to the biopsychosocial and diathesis-stress models, explaining how addiction is not just a disease of choice or biology, but a symptom of deeper wounds. He also challenges the outdated one-size-fits-all treatment model, advocating instead for personalized approaches that recognize the role of connection—whether to people, purpose, nature, or self. Whether you're in recovery, supporting someone who is, or simply seeking a deeper understanding of addiction—this episode offers clarity, compassion, and practical insights behind the often closed-off world of rehab.

5 Lessons from the Episode:

Connection heals: Recovery thrives when people rebuild relationships with others, themselves, and the world around them.

Trauma focus: Treating the root emotional wounds, especially trauma, is often more effective than only addressing symptoms.

Personalized care: Every recovery journey is different; successful treatment adapts to the individual’s life and needs.

Small steps matter: Setting and achieving daily, attainable goals can build the foundation for lasting change.

Support saves lives: Whether through family, 12-step groups, or alternative peer communities, consistent human connection is key.

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Addiction is a symptom, not the problem
00:36 Judd’s breaking point and first call for help
04:00 Biopsychosocial model of treatment
06:09 The role of connection in recovery
08:35 Trauma as the root cause of addiction
11:05 Nature vs. nurture in addiction
14:54 Innovations in addiction treatment
17:41 Evolution of addiction and emerging types
18:15 Social media and behavioral addictions
20:24 Personalized treatment for modern addictions
21:54 Accessibility of treatment for underserved communities
24:38 Finding connection through peer support groups
26:12 Views on “California sober” and recovery diversity
28:33 Stephen’s 3 pillars of sustained recovery
31:05 Final reflections on connection

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When Judd found himself alone on his garage floor, consumed by addiction and despair, he made a desperate phone call. Adam Greenspan answered. What followed wasn’t a dramatic intervention or scripted moment—it was one friend doing the next right thing, over and over again. Adam stayed on the phone, calmed Judd through a personal crisis, and helped orchestrate a cross-country plan to safely get him into rehab, despite being under constant surveillance.

This fourth episode of our addiction series captures the essence of human connection, the power of showing up, and the courage to act without knowing exactly what to do. Together Judd and Adam reflect on the warning signs of addiction, the pain of high-functioning denial, and the importance of breaking free from toxic relationships. This is not just a story about addiction and recovery. It’s about how any of us—regardless of experience—can be the person who answers the call and shows up when someone needs us most.

5 Lessons from the Episode:

Stay calm: In moments of crisis, composure can lead to clear action and potentially save a life.

Answer the call: Simply picking up the phone and being present may be the turning point for someone in pain.

Act decisively: You don’t need all the answers—research, respond, and take the next right step.

Support without judgment: Offering help without blame builds trust and provides safety.

Remember your lowest point: Keeping a reminder of how far you’ve come can prevent relapse and inspire growth.

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Crisis Call: The Moment Everything Changed
03:10 The Garage Floor and the Call for Help
06:50 Choosing a Rehab: Insurance, Location, and Urgency
09:22 Warning Signs and the Reality of High-Functioning Addiction
12:54 The Jail Call and Adam's Calm Under Pressure
16:46 The Great Escape Plan
21:53 Withdrawal and the Power of Remembering Pain
25:05 Calm is a Superpower
29:14 Huntington Beach Hiccup and Final Check-In
33:05 Family Dynamics and Childhood Trauma
35:49 Losing Connection with His Children
38:37 How to Take the Call That Saves a Life
40:28 What Makes Someone Great: Adam’s Relentless Drive

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In episode three of our addiction series, Judd is joined by Shawn Livingston - veteran, ultra marathon runner, and recovery advocate, for a profoundly honest conversation about what it truly means to hit rock bottom—and how to climb back out. Shawn is a former combat veteran whose addiction to heroin landed him in prison, he recounts his journey from jail cells and failed rehab stays to becoming a beacon of hope for others. The episode explores how childhood trauma, a complicated relationship with masculinity, and unresolved pain fed into Shawn’s addiction.

Shawn and Judd draw powerful parallels in their stories, from chasing validation through professional success to learning how to confront deep emotional wounds. The two men explore the societal stigma around addiction and why vulnerability—not toughness—is the true measure of strength. Shawn details how community, physical fitness, and consistent self-work—mentally, physically, and spiritually—helped him maintain long-term sobriety. They also discuss Shawn’s documentary, his ultra-marathon achievements, and how helping others heal has become his purpose. Shawn’s story is a testament to resilience, vulnerability, and the human capacity for change. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking truth, transformation, and tangible tools for overcoming life’s hardest battles.

5 Lessons from the Episode:

Vulnerability wins: Being real about your pain fosters deeper connections and healing.

Find your Super Bowl: Identify your ultimate goal and make every choice in service of it.

Pain needs purpose: Transform your darkest moments into a source of strength by using them to help others.

Community matters: Surrounding yourself with people who see your worth is vital to staying on track.

Balance your tools: Even healthy habits like fitness can become unhealthy if not kept in perspective.

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Opening and guest introduction
03:12 What rock bottom really feels like
08:30 Drug progression and the lure of heroin
13:45 Childhood wounds and validation
19:02 Father figures, masculinity, and identity
25:20 The power of going first in men’s work
29:58 Twelve rehab visits and what finally worked
34:15 Heroin withdrawal and the reality of detox
38:00 Running, fitness, and finding purpose
43:25 When sobriety tools become new obsessions
47:40 Owning your story and helping others
50:05 Redemption defined

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