This conversation started as a casual coffee chat, and turned into a podcast episode because it was too good not to share. What you’re about to hear is a raw, unfiltered look at the part of career pivots no one prepares you for: that disorienting,

“WTF is happening?” healing phase where the old you is gone, the hustle no longer fits, and you’re left figuring out how to move through the messy middle.

I sit down with NLP master coach Leslie Thornton, and together we pull back the curtain on burnout, business identity loss, debt, surrendering to feminine energy (terrifying, but necessary), and how letting go, not pushing harder, is what actually gets you to the other side. Oh, and yes… even AI helped us both see things more clearly.

If you’re in that weird limbo where nothing feels right anymore and you’re quietly asking, what now?—this one’s for you.

💡 What you’ll hear:

• ✔️ Why letting go (instead of grinding harder) is sometimes the real path forward
  ✔️ The truth about burnout, debt, and that “WTF” identity crisis phase
  ✔️ How surrendering to your feminine energy can feel terrifying, but freeing
  ✔️ Why your business (or career) might fall apart before it falls together
  ✔️ The surprising way AI helped spark clarity during our pivots
  

• 🌀 Quote to remember: "I’m not gonna go back to who I was. I can tell I’m integrated. Some things just don’t bother me anymore."

  🔗 Find Leslie at hpwl.co and check out her podcast Hypnosis for Permanent Weight Loss

  💥 Grab my free Heart-Aligned Career Transition Starter or book a clarity call at www.leadintact.com