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In Episode 4, Han and Hitesh talk with Steve Heyman, CEO of SnowOwl, who discovered that true scale comes not from solving impossible problems yourself, but from creating systems where entire teams can tackle them together.

From writing web servers that handled a billion daily requests to building organizations from 0 to 80 people, Steve shares how he evolved from elite engineer to CEO over 25 years in Silicon Valley.

In this episode, he reveals why he chose to move beyond individual technical challenges to focus on organizational problem-solving, how he breaks down complex problems into tractable pieces for teams, and his framework for balancing engineering excellence with business reality.

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In Episode 3, Han and Hitesh sit down with Sagar Shukla, CEO of Foresight. Sagar shares his journey from being employee #10 at DealCloud through its acquisition and IPO, to eventually starting his own company. In this episode, he discusses how navigating through brutal client demands and data disasters taught him resilience, why advocating for himself revealed when it was time to leave, and what it really means to be a "finder" rather than a founder in the startup world.

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In Episode 2, Han and Hitesh sit down with Bala Meduri. Bala has built his career specializing in data and AI. In this episode, he discusses the professional decisions that enabled him to transition his career from leading foundation teams to business teams at a Fortune 500 company.

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