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Topic: Expressing Our Love in Illusion

Dear folks of Baba,

Baba has said that Creation is all an illusion, a zero, a complete nothing, a statement which I think was initially a shock to most of us, and we were faced with an overwhelming dilemma—what do we do with the love He has placed in our hearts if everything is an illusion? Early on, during my first couple of weeks of coming to Baba back in my college days, I woke up one morning and saw that all of life was an illusion. It was horrible, bleak and meaningless, for I had no place to express the love that was in my heart. How could I invest in something that was a total fake? I wandered around for three days with the most dreary and empty prospect before me. Thankfully, on the third morning, Baba conveyed this to me, “Even though all life is an illusion, it is always worthy of your most loving attention.” That bridged for me what seemed to be two impossible realms: the world of love and the realm of Illusion. Didn’t Baba Himself give His most loving attention to everything in this, His illusory world? For us, Love is first mirrored imperfectly in the world of Illusion before it is mirrored perfectly in Baba. He has said, “I am the Divine Beloved worthy of being loved because I am love. He who loves me because of this will be blessed with unlimited sight and will see Me as I am.”

I remember discussing this subject one day with Darwin Shaw. It was his conviction that love, the love in us right now, was in fact here before Creation, and that we are always free to express love if we would only rise above our attachment to the opposites, especially our likes and dislikes. As Baba has said, Creation is a predestined drama for each of us, from the most gaseous state to our final realization of God. In our discussions, Darwin and I likened Creation to a black-and-white film, and through love we can add a magnificent array of colors to it. In every moment, we are free to express the love that Baba gives us through His grace! That is, we are not passive victims of a predestined drama; we can add rich and beautiful colors to every moment! With our love, we have a glorious part to play in His creation. We have the potential to love unconditionally; it is our birthright.

Besides your love for Beloved Baba, where do you find the most attractive and compelling place to pour your love into? Where does your love most naturally and wholeheartedly flow? Baba has said, “I can say with divine authority that I experience eternally and consciously and continually being One with you all and One in you all. Any worship or obeisance done to any deity, animate or inanimate, to any saint, guru, yogi or advanced souls eventually comes to me. By offering pure, unadulterated love to anyone and anything, you will be loving me.” If we rise above our likes and dislikes, the floodgates of our pure hearts can always be opened to everyone and everything. Creation is a vast field we can pour our hearts into if we wish. What unexpected fields of love have opened up for you over the years with Baba? What are some of your passions that Baba has awakened in you? Do you sometimes experience a dilemma between loving Baba and loving others? How have you dealt with that? What difficulties do you experience in expressing love to others, especially when they resist what you have to give? Do you find that there are circumstances where it’s better to radiate love silently rather than expressing it outwardly?

“To penetrate into the essence of all being and significance and to release the fragrance of that inner attainment for the guidance and benefit of others, by expressing in the world of forms--truth, love, purity and beauty--this is the sole game which has any intrinsic and absolute worth. All other happenings, incidents and attainments can, in themselves, have no lasting importance.”

Meher Baba

In His love, Jeff

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Arsenio Rodriguez had many short visits to Meherabad/Meherazad in the 70s and 90s because his employer sent him to India frequently. He said Eruch once greeted him, saying "Are you coming or going?" Tonight Arsenio will share some stories of his times with the mandali.

Hosted by Betty Lowman in CA

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Celebrating Meher Baba's Declaration as the Highest of the High in Hamirpur.

Guest speakers who met Pukar either in Hamirpur, at the Maine Mela, 8-10 August 1975, in Athens Maine, or who connected with Pukar on 2.5 month journey in the USA

To date, the following interviews have been completed and are now available for your listening pleasure in the Babazoom recordings:

Dr Richard Leveton, on tour with Pukar in Hamirpur, November,1972

Ron Greenstein, on tour with Pukar in Hamirpur, February 1973

Allen Ray Powell, on tour with Pukar in Hamirpur, February 1974, your host for the Maine Mela, August 1975

Irwin Luck, on tour with Pukar in the US, Maine to Florida, August 1975

Arsenio Rodriguez, hosted Pukar in San Juan Puerto Rico, September, 1975

Gil Alvarado toured with Pukar in Hamirpur in 1971, his interview is forthcoming

Hosted by A R Powell in CA

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