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In this first teaching episode under the new Creative Energy name, we dive deep into the tangled roots of perfectionism: a pattern that keeps so many creatives stuck in fear, performance, and procrastination. Linda and Heather share their personal experiences of how perfectionism has shown up in relationships, business, parenting, and artistic work, offering insight into how to recognize, unravel, and release its grip. If you’ve ever felt held back by the need to get it “just right,” this episode will help you reconnect with your real, imperfect, and wildly creative self.

We Chat About:

• How perfectionism masks itself as productivity, control, or care
• The connection between people-pleasing and perfectionism
• Parenting patterns, early survival strategies, and “good girl” programming
• The parasite metaphor: how perfectionism seeps into all areas of life
• Creative procrastination as a fear-based perfectionist strategy
• Tools for working with—not eradicating—perfectionist patterns
• The role of writing, somatic work, and service in loosening its grip
• How real connection replaces the need for perfection

Chapters:

00:44 – Naming perfectionism as a core creative block

02:00 – Defining what perfectionism isn’t

05:00 – Control, image, and the fear of exile

07:00 – Relationship perfectionism and performative care

10:00 – How school rewards perfectionism—and adulthood punishes it

13:00 – Childhood roles and the cost of always being “the good one”

18:00 – Sibling dynamics and early identity stories

21:00 – The surprise of discovering “hidden” perfectionism

23:00 – Under-baking as a protective strategy

26:00 – AI, filters, and the illusion of perfect

28:00 – Parenting and redefining the “perfect” home

32:00 – Releasing control in family and business

35:00 – Can we ever fully let go of perfectionism?

36:00 – Compassion as the key to recognizing the pattern

39:00 – Writing as a tool for pattern tracking

42:00 – Dancing, tapping, and being of service

46:00 – Befriending our inner rejected parts

Connect with Us:

Creative Energy Podcast: www.wearecreativeenergy.com

Linda Lewis: www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring: www.heathermanwaring.com

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Connect with Us:

Creative Energy Podcast: www.wearecreativeenergy.com

Linda Lewis: www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring: www.heathermanwaring.com

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In this deeply honest and nourishing episode, Linda and Heather sit down again with our dear friend Cecile Terrillon for a conversation on capacity: what it is, how we lose it, and how we rebuild it slowly, gently, and sustainably over time. We explore the nervous system’s role in capacity, the impact of grief and motherhood, and how life often forces us to slow down when we won’t do it ourselves. This episode is a gentle invitation to honor your humanity, feel what you’ve been avoiding, and start again, with 1% more space than before.

We Chat About:

• What “capacity” really means and why it matters in creative and everyday life
• Cecile’s personal story of burnout, estrangement, and starting over from the ground up
• How to identify when you’re outside your capacity (even if you’re high-functioning)
• Why resistance, grief, and discomfort often arise when we try to slow down
• Building capacity in the body through nervous system work and micro-moments of rest
• The difference between numbing and true rest—and why we don’t have to judge the former
• How desire and frustration coexist when your capacity doesn’t match your ambition
• What sustainable growth looks like across different areas of life, including movement, business, and motherhood
• A behind-the-scenes update on what’s shifting with the podcast and the Jumping Bean Magic Collective

Our Guest:

Cécile Terrillon is an embodiment teacher and medicine woman who challenges the societal norm of forcing and pushing to stay productive at all costs, and instead - invites us into resting, slowing down, and investing into the health and stability of our bodies and nervous systems.

By reconnecting to our body’s boundaries and navigating the relationship between capacity and desire, we begin to halt the patterns of people pleasing, performing, and proving ourselves. It is from this place that we discover who we are underneath the masks, and gain capacity to share and express ourselves authentically.

Through deep listening and emotional attunement, Cécile holds her clients with tenderness and love through the fears that accompany this work, yet brilliantly calls forth the truth you already know and cannot ignore.

Connect with Cecile:

Instagram: @cecile.terrillon

Jumping Bean Magic Collective:

www.jumpingbeanmagiccollective.com

Instagram: @jumpingbeanmagiccollective

Linda Lewis:

www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring:

www.heathermanwaring.com

Chapters:

00:00 – Welcome + Introduction

01:00 – What Is Capacity? Cecile’s Framework

03:00 – Burnout, Disconnection, and the Journey to Rest

08:00 – The Vow to Never Force Again

11:00 – Cecile’s Rock Bottom and the Truth of Tiny Capacity

15:00 – Starting Where You Are (Even If That Means the Floor)

20:00 – The Practice of Pausing + Listening to the Body

24:00 – Feeling Grief and Exhaustion Without Overwhelm

28:00 – What to Do When Life Requires You to Override

30:00 – Releasing Unfelt Emotions to Create More Space

33:00 – Technology as Numbing + The Power of Choosing Presence

35:00 – Raising Capacity Thro

Connect with Us:

Creative Energy Podcast: www.wearecreativeenergy.com

Linda Lewis: www.lindalewcreative.com

Heather Manwaring: www.heathermanwaring.com