Further reading:

• Med-Gemini
• AMIE

Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:

• Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
• Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
• Editor: Rami Tzabar
• Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
• Music: Eleni Shaw
• Audio Engineer: Richard Courtice
• Production Manager: Dan Lazard
• Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke Video
• Director: Bernardo Resende
• Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
• Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
• Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
• Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
• Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
• Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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In this episode, Hannah is once again joined by Murray Shanahan, Professor of Cognitive Robotics at Imperial College London and Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind, for a philosophical deep dive on AI. They explore everything from consciousness and metacognition in animals, to symbolic AI and neural networks. Murray also shares insights into his involvement with the film 'Ex Machina' and discusses the idea of reasoning, anthropomorphism, and the future of AI.

Further reading / listening:

• Toward the future, S1 Ep 7: https://youtu.be/yf31XT1G1RQ?si=6mAEsQhKwKPWk9oH

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:

• Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
• Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
• Editor: Rami Tzabar
• Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
• Music composition: Eleni Shaw
• Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
• Production Manager: Dan Lazard
• Video Director: Bernardo Resende
• Video Editor: Alex Baro Cayetano, Bilal Merhi
• Audio Engineer: Richard Courtice
• Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
• Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
• Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
• Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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In this episode of Google DeepMind: The Podcast, VP of Reinforcement Learning, David Silver, describes his vision for the future of AI, exploring the concept of the "era of experience" versus the current "era of human data". Using AlphaGo and AlphaZero as examples, he highlights how these systems surpassed human capabilities by engaging in reinforcement learning without prior human knowledge. This approach contrasts with large language models, which depend on human data and feedback. Silver emphasizes the need to explore this path to drive AI progress and achieve artificial superintelligence.

Timestamps

• 00:00 Introduction
• 01:50 Era of experience
• 03:45 AlphaZero
• 10:19 Move 37
• 15:20 Reinforcement learning and human feedback
• 24:30 AlphaProof
• 29:50 Math Olympiads
• 35:00 Experience based methods
• 42:56 Hannah's reflections
• 44:00 Fan Hui joins

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:

• Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
• Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
• Series Editor: Rami Tzabar
• Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
• Music Composition: Eleni Shaw
• Audio Engineer: Richard Courtice
• Production Manager: Dan Lazard
• Video Director and Editor: Bernardo Resende
• Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke
• Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
• Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
• Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
• Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
• Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
• Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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