This is the story you've been begging us to tell! Natalie and a few of her family members tell the frightening story of how they survived a flash flood in The Narrows at Zion National Park. There are a few extra miracles along the way that we've been wanting to share. We hope you join us for this episode-a story of survival, hope, and family.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of child abuse and CSA.

In this episode, we dive deeper into the tragic and horrific family secrets at the heart of the Menendez case, exploring the dark underbelly of the family’s seemingly perfect facade. We’ll uncover the shocking revelations from the trial about the lasting abuse endured by Lyle and Erik at the hands of their parents.

Join us as we examine the psychological impact of this kind of trauma and how it may have shaped the brothers’ actions. We'll also discuss the legal strategies of both the prosecution and the defense, as well as the faults in the legal system at the time that shared the views of male victims of assault and abuse.

Join us as we explore the complex dynamics of family loyalty, conditional love, and the devastating consequences of abuse.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

IYKYK: We unravel the shocking events that shook the #MomTok online community to its core—the viral scandal that has sparked debates about authenticity, influencer culture, mormon culture, substance abuse and domestic violence.

When a popular #MomTok creator’s personal life was exposed in a series of controversial videos, the community was thrown into a frenzy. What started as a moment of online misstep quickly escalated into a full-blown scandal, raising questions about the line between online persona and real-life identity.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.