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  • [STEP BY STEP] Meet the Connectors: The New Role of Store Associates in a Digital World
    2025/08/13

    In an era where retail often feels transactional, Akira has spent 23 years proving that personal connection drives business success. Eric Hsueh, co-owner of the Chicago-based fashion brand, reveals how their 40-store chain has scaled authentic relationships without losing its boutique DNA. Eric expands on how technology can enable human relationship, rather than replace it.

    “I Believe In Stores”Key takeaways:
    • Authenticity over automation: Akira actively combats formulaic retail interactions, training stylists to engage genuinely rather than asking "Can I help you find anything?" which Eric calls "nails on a chalkboard." - Eric [07:12]
    • Micro-wins build macro loyalty: Individual moments—like finding the perfect jeans after 90 minutes—create lasting relationships that compound over years. "That's authenticity. And that is micro wins leading to building a business." - Eric [21:03]
    • Technology enables, doesn't replace: Tools like texting and client data enhance personal relationships rather than scaling impersonal outreach. The focus remains "the one on one relationship, the personal connection." - Eric [16:14]
    • Character comes first: When hiring, Eric prioritizes "energy, intelligence and integrity," with integrity being "first and foremost" because authentic relationships require genuine people. - Eric [09:14]
    Associated Links:
    • Learn more about Endear
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
    • Check out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and print
    • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
    • Listen to our other episodes of Future Commerce

    Have any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!

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    30 分
  • [STEP BY STEP] The New Community Store: Inside Brick-and-Mortar's Evolution
    2025/08/12

    After 33 years of redefining retail, Anthropologie has mastered creating stores that serve communities rather than just selling to them. Mindy Massey, who oversees stores across North America and the UK after 26 years with the brand, reveals how they've shifted from conversion to connection—empowering 10,000+ employees as community curators while maintaining authentic relationships at scale. Her insights offer a masterclass in why this approach matters more than ever as younger generations reshape retail expectations.

    The Multi-Gen EffectKey takeaways:
    • Amplification over transformation: Anthropologie didn't reinvent their service strategy—they amplified 33 years of authentic relationship-building with better tools and deeper community integration. "I would say more than transformation. It's been like amplification... Our service strategy has always been built on a foundation of genuine connection." - Mindy [02:52]
    • Wide lanes, strong guardrails: Success requires high accountability and clear brand standards while giving local teams wide creative latitude to serve their specific communities. "We do provide guardrails. But the lanes are kind of wide open for a localized approach." - Mindy [06:41]
    • Authenticity drives KPIs, not vice versa: The brand prioritizes genuine relationships over metrics, trusting that real connections naturally generate better business outcomes. "The authenticity of the relationships is what drives the KPIs versus the KPIs driving the relationships." - Mindy [09:26]
    • Ordinary to extraordinary: Every element, from yarn window displays to finance team creativity, embraces the philosophy of transforming simple materials into unexpected beauty. "So much of our heritage is steeped in making the ordinary extraordinary. You find something really simple and you make it super innovative." - Mindy [13:36]
    In-Show Mentions:
    • Tricia Smith (CEO, Anthropologie)
    • Rockefeller Center store holiday display
    Associated Links:
    • Learn more about Endear
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
    • Check out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and print
    • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
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    33 分
  • E414: Kunle Campbell – Is Commerce in Conflict with Idealism?
    2025/08/08

    Live at Klaviyo London, Kunle Campbell joins Future Commerce to explore the tension between idealistic wellness brands and the realities of scaling in a capitalist system. Kunle and Phillip explore intentionality, identity formation, and how conscious consumers can navigate the cascade of marketing messages while staying true to themselves.

    Know Thyself, Choose BetterKey takeaways:
    • Pure idealism faces scalability challenges: Growing wellness brands often must compromise their founding principles to reach broader audiences and achieve economies of scale, as demonstrated by Whole Foods' evolution from commune cooperative to mainstream retailer.
    • Identity exchange drives commerce decisions: Every purchase represents an identity transaction where consumers either align with authentic values or fall prey to manufactured personas pushed by predatory marketing tactics.
    • Self-knowledge enables intentional consumption: Understanding your personal predispositions (Kunle recommends DNA tests, blood work, meditation, or breathwork) allows for more conscious brand alignment and purchasing decisions.
    • Consciousness awakening shifts market dynamics: Social media influencers educating consumers about ingredient transparency and wellness principles are forcing traditional retailers like Tesco to create accelerator programs for "Better For You" brands.
    Key Quotes:
    • [00:01:56]: "Culture is communication, it's community. It's the zeitgeist... At the core, if you go deeper into culture, I think the value system is very, very fundamental." – Kunle Campbell
    • [00:06:22]: "In order to change the world, like at scale, you're going to have to make some compromises... Pure idealism is not enough in a capitalist system." – Kunle Campbell
    • [00:19:25]: "Marketing clutter says, 'this is an identity. Claim it. Take it,' and then you lose your inner person." – Kunle Campbell
    • [00:26:35]: "Don't lose self... There are brands out there that would sort of merge with your own unique wants and needs based on what you need for yourself." – Kunle Campbell
    In-Show Mentions:
    • John Mackey's "The Whole Story" book and Whole Foods' evolution
    • Joe Dispenza meditation methodology and body scanning techniques
    • Tesco's Better For You brand accelerator program
    Associated Links:
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
    • Check out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and print
    • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
    • Listen to our other episodes of Future Commerce

    Have any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!

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    27 分
  • How Brands Exploit Outrage
    2025/08/01

    Will systems-driven commerce be the death of our (Brian’s) peace? This week, Phillip and Brian explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping expertise, the chokehold inflexible systems have on modern life, and the meaning of the digital afterlife. Plus: learn how brands like American Eagle are balancing controversy and virality to shock themselves into relevancy while feeling minimal aftershocks.

    One Year Closer to the Digital AfterlifeKey takeaways:
    • The ChatGPT Expert Problem: AI is enabling a new class of "nouveau experts" who cite disparate cultural theorists like Freddie DeBoer and Peter Turchin to sound authoritative, creating sophisticated-sounding but potentially hollow analysis
    • Peak Inflexibility: Modern life is increasingly controlled by inflexible systems that eliminate human judgment and serendipity, from cell phone stores that can't override basic functions to restaurants requiring months-advance reservations
    • One-Round Game Marketing: Brands like American Eagle are adopting political-style "one-round game" tactics, where temporary controversy and outrage generate attention without long-term brand damage, as demonstrated by Sydney Sweeney's "good genes" campaign
    • The Post-Internet Brain: We're outsourcing memory, emotions, and even nostalgia to algorithms, with AI potentially eliminating the need to ask questions by providing contextual information before we realize we want it
    • [00:25:55] Brian: "I believe that there is a set of business leaders out there that see ChatGPT as a way to make decisions about their business... they're sending it to an entity that effectively is confirmation bias."
    • [00:24:27] Phillip: "What we found in our primary research is that TikTok doesn't show up for direct like spear fishing—that's Amazon. It doesn't show up for inspiration like window shopping—that's Instagram. And it doesn't show up for entertainment or learning—that's YouTube."
    • [00:54:49] Brian: "Someday we're not going to call it the internet anymore, actually. Because it's actually an extension of our brains. It's a way for us to store information."
    • [01:13:54] Phillip: "A blonde woman talking about her good genes. You’re telling me that not one person thought about this? This is perfectly engineered for outrage."
    In-Show Mentions:
    • Jack Conte on X: TikTok vs. YouTube as search engines
    • Alex Greifeld on X: “One round game marketing”
    Associated Links:
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
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    • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
    • Listen to other episodes of Future Commerce

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  • Rory Sutherland on the Fat Tail of Marketing
    2025/07/25

    The hunt for certainty is killing creativity.

    Rory Sutherland, chairman of Ogilvy and the poet of persuasion, joins us live from Klaviyo London to challenge marketing's obsession with thin-tailed attribution. Brands are facing an existential crisis in an increasingly brandless, chat-interface powered world, but Sutherland believes that current measurement models are not designed to allow marketers to test, fail, learn, and grow, systematically destroying breakthrough potential.

    Key takeaways:
    • Technology evolves from option to obligation: Parking apps that liberated us from coin machines now trap those without smartphones, while McDonald's screen-only outlets eliminate human flexibility
    • Marketing is fat-tailed, business is not thin-tailed: "10% of what you do delivers 130% of the value, but you don't know what the 10% is in advance." But marketing’s current measurement system is designed for us to fail. Attribution models punish necessary failures and do not credit long-term breakthroughs
    • Interface changes redistribute power overnight: When fundamental interaction modes shift from typing to voice and stores to apps, established advantages can disappear instantly, creating opportunities for complete market disruption
    • Brand value is multifarious, not monolithic: Fame, trust signals, and decision-making heuristics remain valuable even as chat interfaces challenge traditional brand expression. "People will come and find you rather than you having to find them." – Rory Sutherland
    • [00:06:13] "Interface change is always disruptive, because if you change the interface within which people choose and act, you fundamentally change behavior." - Rory Sutherland
    • [00:20:25] "There's a concern I always have about technology, which is the extent to which a lot of technology arrives as an option and ends up as an obligation." - Rory Sutherland
    • [00:42:47] "There's a danger that what [AI is] doing is enshrining groupthink. It's taking groupthink and effectively engraving it." - Rory Sutherland
    Links & In-Show Mentions:
    • Learn more about Ogilvy
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
    • Check out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and print
    • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
    • Listen to our other episodes of Future Commerce

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    49 分
  • LIVE @ VISIONS NYC: The Stories Behind Our Spaces
    2025/07/23

    A replay from VISIONS Summit: NYC featuring YouTuber and architect Dami Lee.

    From the stage of VISIONS Summit at MoMA, Dami Lee reveals why the most chaotic spaces often teach us the most about what it means to be human.

    As a licensed architect turned YouTube storyteller with over 200 million views, she's discovered that making architecture approachable isn't about simplifying complexity, it's about finding the human stories embedded in our built environment. Through her exploration of places like Kowloon Walled City, Dami demonstrates how the most profound spaces emerge not from master plans but from organic human adaptation, creating connections and meaning through what philosophers call "rhizomic growth."

    When a Deeper Connection Is Better Than a Wider OneKey takeaways:
    • Human framing trumps technical perfection: No matter how many hours spent making content beautiful or technically accurate, none of it matters without taking time to make it human and frame architecture from a human angle.
    • Personal investment drives authentic storytelling: Topics perform best when team members have genuine personal connections to the subject matter, leading to deeper research and more compelling narratives.
    • Rhizomic processes create unexpected connections: Non-linear, seemingly inefficient creative processes allow for serendipitous discoveries and cross-categorical insights that wouldn't emerge through structured approaches.
    • Extremes ignite curiosity: Audiences gravitate toward architectural stories that push boundaries—like the world's densest city—because extremes reveal fundamental truths about human behavior and adaptation.
    Associated Links:
    • Check out Dami Lee on YouTube
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
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    • Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce world
    • Listen to our other episodes of Future Commerce

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    29 分
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    2025/07/23

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    10 分
  • Gen Z's New Retail Experience Blueprint
    2025/07/18

    How is the next generation redefining what it means to shop, connect, and co-create in physical spaces?

    Grab a pen and get ready to take some notes because Melissa Gonzalez and her firm, MG2 Advisory, have cracked the Gen-Z code through groundbreaking new research. But make no mistake, this isn’t more one-size-fits all data about a large, and highly nuanced, cohort. This is granular research that unpacks the social, behavioral, and psychological forces impacting how different Gen Z personas shop.

    This week, we’re learning how brands can leverage powerful tools that Gen Z is already wielding to level up their physical retail experiences: nostalgia, authenticity, sustainability, and co-creation. Listen now to get Melissa’s data-driven blueprint for designing meaningful brand experiences.

    Multiplayer This, Co-Creator ThatKey takeaways:
    • Values vs. Value Tension: 94% of Gen Z shops with values in mind (authenticity, transparency, humility, sustainability), but economics still drive final decisions
    • Co-Creation Imperative: Three out of four Gen Z consumers want to be collaborators in the brand journey, extending beyond product customization to store design, layout, and programming
    • Nostalgia as Currency: Y2K and 2000s aesthetics dominate Gen Z's desire for nostalgic comfort, with apparel and fashion brands leading the charge through vintage-inspired experiences and activations
    • Technology Extends Instinct: Successful retail tech either reduces friction through operational efficiency or creates deeper immersion. Anything in between feels like novelty and lacks authenticity
    • [00:09:15] "The reason why it doesn't always win their wallet share is because economics still matter. But if there's a great desire for it... if a brand or retailer can get it right and enable it, there's a big opportunity there because they're helping consumers live those aspirational values." – Melissa
    • [00:14:59] "Three out of four... want to be co-creators and collaborators in the brand journey. Store design, product customization... but you don't see it often in store design, I think... there's a real opportunity because you're getting validation buy in." – Melissa
    • [00:28:30] "You have to have a team... you have to always understand the zeitgeist and how generations are evolving... because it's not a one-size-fits-all answer that's going to remain static." – Melissa
    • [00:38:36] "What about it is going to feel more ethereal and more immersive... What are you giving people? Why are they getting out of their house? Why are they getting out of their phone? Why do they feel like they have to engage with this physical experience?" – Melissa
    In-Show Mentions:
    • New 2025 Gen Z Research
    • Our Upcoming Webinar with MG2 Advisory
    • The Pop-Up Paradigm book
    • Retail Refined podcast
    • MG2 Advisory
    Associated Links:
    • Check out Future Commerce on YouTube
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    53 分