What if every small group, business, or neighborhood had someone equipped to walk with people through emotional and spiritual struggles—before it ever gets to crisis? That’s the power of InStep, a strategic partner of Fully Alive.

In this episode, Brian Phipps sits down with longtime friends Mike and Carol Grubbs, founders of InStep. Together, they unpack how this training equips ordinary people to provide frontline care—without needing to be licensed professionals. Whether you're a church leader, business owner, or simply someone who wants to care better for the people in your life, this conversation is for you.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why emotional healing is often a prerequisite for effective discipleship

• The two “bottomless pits” driving our unhealthy behaviors—and how Jesus fills them

• How InStep training works (format, timing, cost, and follow-up support)

• How to integrate InStep into your small groups, staff teams, or community

• Inspiring stories of transformation from both helpers and those helped

Guest Info: 🎙️ Mike Grubbs – Founder, InStep Ministry, Counselor, Professor, Author 🎙️ Carol Grubbs – InStep Administrator & Facilitator of Care

📚 Books by Mike Grubbs:

• Broken Chains

• Top-Down Thinking in a Bottom-Up World

• The River: A Christian Narrative

Resources & Links: 🔗 Join the InStep Community on the Fully Alive App 📅 Sign up for the next InStep Training: August 15–16 or October 10–11 📩 Contact Carol directly via the Fully Alive app for registration info

📘 Read the Fully Alive eBook by Brian Phipps: Available free in the app 💡 Take your GPS Assessment at giftpassionstory.com

Partner With Us: Fully Alive is building an army of everyday disciple-makers and care-givers. If you’re a pastor, network leader, or business owner looking to multiply spiritual and emotional vitality in your context, consider becoming a Strategic Partner with us.

🌐 Learn more: disciplesmade.com/partnership 🤝 Let's build a Fully Alive movement—together.

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