Ken Gullette talks with Sgt. Aaron Leisinger of the Cedar Rapids, Iowa Police Department and a long-time martial arts student and instructor. He also helps train other officers in defensive tactics with the goal of resolving situations peacefully. Ken and Aaron competed against each other in martial arts tournaments more than 20 years ago. In this interview, they talk about martial arts and how it's used in police work, the decisions an officer makes in an uncertain situation, when and why an officer might go to a higher level of force, and how you might not always understand your rights when you are stopped by a police officer. Total running time is one hour 18 minutes.

Ken talks with Lindsay Lambert, the owner and head instructor at Wu Dao Kung Fu & Tai Chi in Watertown, Massachusetts (on the outskirts of Boston). Lindsay currently holds two National Championship titles in Shuai Jiao: Women’s 135lbs Division in 2023 & 2024, and one Women’s Internal Grand Championship title at ICMAC in 2019. She won third place in Shuai Jiao competition at a large tournament in Baoding, China. From her website at www.wudaokungfu.com: During her career she has had the opportunity to work closely with Shaolin Monk Shifu Shi De Cheng (Shaolin Kung Fu), Master Wei Lun Huang (Yang Taiji and Liu He Ba Fa), Shifu Tim Hartmann (Shaolin and Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu, Yang Tai Chi and Liu He Ba Fa), Sifu Daniel Tomizaki (Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu), Coach Tye Tonkin (Sanda/Chinese Kick Boxing, Shuai Jiao/Chinese Wrestling, Qin Na/Small Join Locking) and Shifu Sonny Mannon (Shuai Jiao/Chinese Wrestling). She has taught workshops and camps throughout New England on a variety of topics in Chinese Martial Arts. You can learn more about Lindsay at www.wudaokungfu.com. Ken Gullette teaches through his website at www.internalfightingart.com.

Celebrating the 10th Anniversary of the Internal Fighting Arts podcast, Ken Gullette talks with Hai Yang, who has become familiar to a lot of internal artists through his YouTube videos, which combine scholarly discussions with demonstrations of movement and the coaching of students. He was born in Tianjin, China, a city with a very robust martial arts community, with teachers such as Zhang Zhaodong, Li Cunyi, Xue Dian, and other masters, including the sons of Bagua Zhang creator Dong Hai Chuan. Eventually, Hai Yang moved to Montreal, where he lives and teaches, and helped create the Daoist Arts Organization International. In this interview, Master Yang talks about learning from family members starting at age eight; about studying with Chen Zhaokui and Ma Hong, and about how he is working to preserve the Xue Dian style of Xingyi Quan for future generations. Total running time is One hour and 16 minutes.