John Trefry is the founder of Inside the Castle.

Nico, Chris, and Naomi from Archway Editions joined me on this episode.

Shout out to their publicist Mia for setting this all up. It was all her idea. Archway Editions has published the most notable and noteworthy authors like Erin Taylor and Blake Butler Are these cats a bunch of corporate drones punching buttons and yanking giant levers? No. They're not.

They’re kinda cool like really cool.

I used audio in the beginning of the episode from a youtube video from an archway reading they held where Chris read his work. And I also used audio from a video where Nico was working on getting onto the public radio station WBAI Public Radio

Theo Thimo, Paul Hanson Clark, August Smith, Louis Packard, Alex Savage. and Jesse Prado read for a 9/11 reading. We all hang out and discuss random topics. Come hang out.. Drop in. Buy Lou's new book. Rootbeer Renaissance from wonderpress. Did I spell rootbeer, right.

You can hear Evan Femino and other people on the podcast throughout the episode.

Met Evan Femino through attending readings at ctchfest 2024. Evan is the founder of Feral Dove. Evan founded the experimental visual press and online journal a few years back. A cool dude. We discuss films, writing, Giancarlo, pigeons, and the community. Thanks for listening.

Louis Packard is a poet. He's been published in back patio press and positive exposure. He was a frequent guest on Paul Hanson Clark's podcast, in fact, he was a co-host. He has a book of poems coming out soon by Wonder.

This is a reading and conversation with Cav and Zac . We had a great time. They are friends. I hate intros. I am very professional. This is a professional podcast.

Zac Smith is the author of Everything is Totally Fine (Muumuu House, 2021) and 50 Barn Poems (2019). His writing has been published by Hobart, X-Ray, Maudlin House, New World Writing, Wigleaf, Bending Genres, and other magazines. Cavin Bryce Gonzalez is the founder of Back Patio Press and former prose editor for Soft Cartel

Tom Snarsky is a poet and former math whiz . He stopped by the podcast to talk with me about his passion for poetry. How to read and associate with poetry. I ask him if he hates anyone. Does Tom have hate in his heart. Over the course of this interview we speak and read poems by Erin Taylor,, Ben Mirov, Graham Irvin and even James Tate. I cut out about thirty minutes of a two hour interview. Couldn't get all of it down. It's been a while. The podcast may be cutting back to once a month.

Man, it's around 100 AM in the morning here in Tulsa. The darkness is shining in through the window. Oklahoma buzzes on. Through the blinking headlights, the silent trees, and sleepy porch pirates.

I went to a bookstore today. Haven't been in one in some time - usually I'm in the amazon internet places. It's cool to hold a physical thing, rifle through the pages and sniff the vowels right off the page. Snort the spine. Rifling through the books was a blast. Bookstores morph.

I was relistening back to this episode as I edited it down - throwing away chunks here and there. I just love this stuff. I am a lucy freaking person.

The fact I get to talk to Charles Jensen - author of the new book Splice of Life - a memoir in 13 genres - available now! Also, he wrote an excellent book called "Nanopedia" published in 2018.

Charles also is a podcaster, you know. He hosts The Write Process and is a poet as well - even reads one of his poems on the podcast. Thanks for listening everyone. I love me some essays. Essayists. I think poetry and essays blend very well together. I appreciate all the listening you all do. I live a cool life, where I'm able to do this. That people will talk to me.