Welcome back to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick podcast, where we challenge conventional wisdom and explore bold ideas and perspectives that could transform your health and life. Today’s episode is not for the faint of heart, or the salad lovers among us. We’re diving headfirst into one of the most controversial topics in modern nutrition: Is everything we’ve been told about healthy eating wrong?

Joining us is Dr. Anthony Chaffee, MD, a neurosurgical resident, former professional rugby player, and outspoken advocate for the Carnivore Diet. Dr. Chaffee doesn’t just suggest that meat is good for you, he claims it’s the *only* food humans are designed to thrive on. Even more provocatively, he argues that plants aren’t just unnecessary, they're actively trying to poison you.

If you’ve ever wondered whether that green smoothie is doing more harm than good, or if chronic disease could result from a species-inappropriate diet, this conversation will make you rethink everything.

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Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast: This podcast covers topics that expand human consciousness and performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is a subjective and acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses.

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Join us as we unpack and make sense of the challenges of living in a comparative reality in this fast moving egocentric world.

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Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast: This podcast covers topics that expand human consciousness and performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is a subjective and acquired taste. When you change how you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

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Highlights

0:00 - Intro

6:35 - Rugby Background

10:37 - Indoctrination Nation

11:29 - Are we biologically carnivores?

35:52 - Whats the verdict? Are Vegetarians and Vegans making it all up?

This is One From The Vault of the previous Rise Up With Dragon show where Dragon in the process of coming up with many aspects of the Interface Response System out of thin air. The name says it all. The whole idea of reason and clarity and understanding is only good until your reality changes and a new reality sets in. The key is to remain aware of this and open to it.

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In recognition of Men’s Mental Health Month, I offer this not as a diagnosis but as a mirror—a reflection—of one man’s honest reckoning with what it really means to “be a man” in a world that rewards our silence and buries our truth.

Every June, we remember the tragic loss of great men—Robin Williams, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Anthony Bourdain. Men who made us laugh, think, feel… and then left us too soon. These weren’t weak men. They were men crushed by the quiet torment of expectations they could no longer uphold. And the silence that made it impossible to ask for help.

So let me say something that might cost me the stamp of being a “real man” in the eyes of some:

Hi. My name is JC Doornick, and I get scared about many things.

I know some will read that and think I’ve betrayed the code. That I've "outed the brotherhood." But I’m tired of pretending. I’m tired of losing men I love to silence. To pride. To pressure. To shame. And if sharing my truth helps even one man remove the mask, it's worth it.

Because here’s the truth: Being a man today is a zero-sum game.

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Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast: This podcast covers topics that expand human consciousness and performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is a subjective and acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

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Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where i get all these topics for almost 15 years? I have learned to read nearly 4 times faster with 10X retention from Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon

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• Makes Sense Academy: A private mastermind and psychologically safe environment full of the Mindset and Action steps that will help you begin to thrive. The Makes Sense Academy. https://www.skool.com/makes-sense-academy/about
• The Sati Experience: A retreat designed for the married couple that truly loves one another yet wants to take their love to that higher magical level where. Relax, reestablish, and renew your love at the Sati Experience. https://www.satiexperience.com

Highlights:

0:00 - Intro
2:57 - Manning Up - The Zero Sum Game of Manhood
7:00 - The truth about being a man today?
10:48 - The Nine Shadow Fears that Haunt the Modern Man
13:47 - I don’t want to pass on the pain to my kids.
19:32 - Shadow Work
23:59 - The Arrows that men hide?
28:44 - Integrating this change into your life