What happens when your L&D program is the only reason a $14,000 problem becomes a $1,000 fix?

Discover how making learning fun and memorable can lead to real-world business impact—like turning a $14,000 mistake into a $1,000 solution. In this episode of Rogue L&D Hotshots, you’ll hear a high-energy, insight-packed conversation about why behavior change matters more than ticking boxes, and how simple, well-designed digital training outperforms traditional methods.

Mark Eggers, co-founder of Yarno and lifelong advocate for engaging, impactful learning experiences, shares stories from cricket fields, digital agencies, and oil forecourts to reveal what actually makes a training program stick. Whether you’re tired of boring courses or looking for results that move the needle, this episode is packed with surprising lessons and inspiration.

Key Takeaways

1. Behavior change and learner enjoyment aren't mutually exclusive—they’re essential to real business impact.
2. Overcomplicated training is costing companies time, money, and attention—clarity wins.
3. The best validation of training isn't awards—it's what learners say when no one's watching.

Timestamps:

• [00:00] Intro to Podcast & Host — Tom Bailey introduces the Rogue L&D Hotshot format and what to expect.
• [00:27] Meet Mark Eggers — Mark shares his background from project management to co-founding Yarno.
• [00:59] Why He’s Passionate — The joy of behavior change and positive feedback from learners.
• [01:15] $14,000 to $1,000 Case Study — A real-world example of how Yarno’s training saved a company money.
• [01:53] Favorite Hand Gesture — Mark introduces the quirky “Rigi Dig” from an ‘80s TV show.
• [02:00] One Thing He Didn’t Learn — Cricket, courage, and hitting sixes with your eyes closed.
• [02:41] Proudest Moment — Hearing that learners truly enjoy the training and want more.
• [02:55] Worst L&D Experience — A 45-minute online training that could’ve been five bullet points.
• [03:25] Celebrity Moment — A nostalgic childhood encounter with racing legend Dick Johnson.
• [03:46] When No One Believed Him — Predicting the failure of a funded platform no one else questioned.
• [04:16] Closing Thoughts & Call to Connect — Tom wraps up and invites listeners to connect via his website or LinkedIn.

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Links and Learnings:

• Mark Eggers on Linkedin
• Yarno Website
• Tom Bailey on LinkedIn
• Tom Bailey Website