This week Abby and Luz are joined by Cornell philosophy professor and author Kate Manne, whose recent book Unshrinking: How to Fight Fatphobia blew both of their minds! Kate gives her take on the moral philosophy of fatness, how size informs misogyny, lasagna, dogwhistles, sexual fatphobia, Baby Reindeer, and her concept of body reflexivity.

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Abby tackles the second installment of Bridgerton Season 3 with Cortland Jacoby of Punch Drunk Critics. They discuss sex scenes, the importance of hiring fat writers, whether this is the "body positivity season," Jess Brownell's comments to the press, and where Bridgerton might go next.

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No full length ep this week due to technical difficulties, but here's a little preview of the catch-up episode that just went out on our Patreon! You can find it in full at our $3 Quirky Best Friend tier (and even if you have no intention of subscribing, just go to our Patreon and appreciate the names of the tiers bc we are so proud of them)!

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Naturally we had to kick off season 5 by discussing the hottest TV show of the moment (in multiple senses of the word, WINK EMOJI) - Bridgerton! Abby and Luz are joined by Deanna Garwol, creator of My Big Fat Bucket List, to discuss the fat wallflower trope, our Bridgerton crushes, what straight men can learn from regency romance, the definition of midsize, and of course the famous carriage scene.

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Abby and Luz return for one last episode of Season 4 before a short break! They discuss their favorite fat main characters and how to be the main character of your own life.

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Abby and Luz are back for the final installment in their Fat Trope Deep Dive series! After some life updates and recent internet scandal discourse, they talk tankinis, disability stigma, The Biggest Loser, American exceptionalism, Melissa McCarthy, postfeminism, and Rachel Hollis's famous tiger stripes.

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Sources we referenced in this episode:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/26/mum-rachel-hollis-inspiring-viral-bikini-body-photo_n_6946218.html

Millard, Jennifer. “Performing Beauty: Dove’s ‘Real Beauty’ Campaign.” Symbolic Interaction, vol. 32, no. 2, 2009, pp. 146–68. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.1525/si.2009.32.2.146. Accessed 11 Apr. 2024.

Taylor, J., Johnston, J., & Whitehead, K. (2016). A Corporation in Feminist Clothing? Young Women Discuss the Dove ‘Real Beauty’ Campaign. Critical Sociology, 42(1), 123-144. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1177/0896920513501355

Murray, D. P. (2013). Branding “Real” Social Change in Dove’s Campaign for Real Beauty. Feminist Media Studies, 13(1), 83–101. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/14680777.2011.647963

Meeuf, R. (2016). Class, corpulence, and neoliberal citizenship: Melissa McCarthy on Saturday Night Live. Celebrity Studies, 7(2), 137–153. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/19392397.2015.1044758

Hannah Rae Leach of Sleepover Cinema once again joins Abby - this time to discuss the then-wildly-controversial body representation of Lena Dunham as Hannah Horvath in Girls (2012). We also cover Lana Del Rey, the fat face of it all, being honest about internalized fatphobia, glamorizing toxic sex, and why this is a Patrick Wilson fancast.

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This week, Abby and Luz talk about the sad fat person trope, unpacking why media is so obsessed with presenting fat people as pitiable walking tragedies. Some of the examples we discuss include Fat Thor, Bridgerton, Heathers, The Whale, and good old-fashioned freak shows.

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Sources we referenced in this episode:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/13/obese-depression-weight-psychology-judgment-fat-shaming

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392295/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/slim-sad-fat-happy-519034.html

https://www.mamamia.com.au/fat-girl-trope/

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeightWoe

https://www.rogerebert.com/features/why-cant-sad-be-fat

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pixar-fails-at-body-positivity-in-inside-out_b_7617432

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/notes-on-hollywood/the-whale-and-the-fat-suit-brendan-fraser-darren-aronofsky

Richardson, N, & Locks, A. (2014). 'Monstrosity, enfreakment, and disability.' Body Studies: the Basics. London: Taylor & Francis Group. Available from: ProQuest Ebook Central. [3 April 2024]. https://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/suss/detail.action?docID=1753259.