🧩 Season Theme: Unmade
Much like an unmade bed can be straightened, so too can the messy and painful parts of our lives be reshaped, redefined, and ultimately redeemed. Unmade is about the journey of becoming, again and again.

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What do you do when you're in a place so dark, you can’t see the light—or even remember what light feels like? This week’s guest, Carolyn Sophia Skowron, brings us into her raw, real, and redemptive story of navigating life with Nonverbal Learning Disability, depression, and anxiety. From childhood bullying to relentless self-doubt and anxiety, Carolyn often felt invisible and unworthy. She grew up believing she was broken—until she started to rebuild.

One moment stands out in her story: the day of a hit-and-run car accident. At the very last second, just before impact, Carolyn reached for her seatbelt and buckled it—an act that quite literally saved her life. That moment became more than just physical survival; it symbolized a turning point. It was as if something deep inside her said, You still matter. You’re still worth saving. That split-second decision became the spark that led her on a path to discovering her unbreakable light—a strength that had always been there, waiting to be seen.

💡 Episode Highlights:

Carolyn’s experience growing up feeling like an outsider

Her diagnosis of Nonverbal Learning Disability (NVLD) and what it revealed

The mental toll of bullying, isolation, and internalized self-hate

The hit-and-run accident—and how reaching for her seatbelt became a defining moment

The journey from self-doubt to self-awareness

How therapy, mindfulness, and inner work transformed her foundation

The power of choosing resilience, even in the darkest of places

🔗 Connect with Carolyn Sophia Skowron:
Website: www.carolynsophia.com
Instagram: @carolynsophiaaa

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🎙STAY

🧩 Season Theme: Unmade
🛏️ Just like an unmade bed, our lives can feel messy, incomplete, or unraveling. But that doesn’t mean they’re beyond hope. This season, we explore the beauty in brokenness—and how what’s unmade can still be remade with purpose, healing, and grace.

👣 Guest Introduction:
This week, we invite you to STAY—Stop Thinking About Yourself—with a guest whose story redefines transformation: Frank Meeink. ⚠️ Once a high-profile neo-Nazi skinhead leader, Frank's life was filled with violence, hate, and deep-rooted pain. But in prison, the unexpected happened—he began to see the people he was taught to hate, and his walls started to crumble. 💥 Frank’s incredible story of redemption and reckoning is captured in his book, Autobiography of a Recovering Skinhead 📖. Today, he speaks boldly about the dangers of radicalization and the power of second chances. His journey reminds us that no one is too far gone, and no story too broken to be rebuilt. 🧱💔➡️❤️

💡 Episode Highlights:

🧠 How early pain and ideology shaped Frank’s worldview

🪪 The people in prison who changed his mind—and heart

🔁 What it takes to unlearn hate and rewrite your story

🕊️ Why humility and listening are tools for real change

🫶 The challenge to stay present in others' pain, not just your own

🔗 Connect with Frank Meeink:
📘 Book: Autobiography of a Recovering Skinhead

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🧩 Season Theme: Unmade
This season, we walk into the unexpected—where life unravels, dreams collapse, and identities shift. But sometimes, being unmade is the first step toward being remade. What do we do when the timeline of our lives breaks beyond repair?

👣 Guest Introduction:
This week, I’m joined by Jill Pavlov, a magnetic voice in the world of messaging and storytelling. She’s the founder of Copy POP!, where she helps women transform the chaos in their heads into powerful words they’re proud to say out loud. Jill is helping in assisting entrepreneurs clarify their brand message. She was an entertainment reporter, learning firsthand how presence, performance, and storytelling can command a room.

In this episode, Jill opens up with raw honesty about her battle with eating disorders and addiction — the parts of her story that were messy, hidden, and tangled. With courage and insight, she shares how being unmade cracked her open, eventually giving her the clarity and confidence she brings to her work today.

💡 Episode Highlights:

What it means to be part of the 9%: the estimated portion of the U.S. population who will face an eating disorder

Why the struggle often remains unseen, especially for women in their 40s and 50s

Jill’s journey through addiction, disordered eating, and the turning point toward healing

How clutter, both internal and external, reflects the chaos of our lives — and how we begin to clear it

The parallels between making a bed and rebuilding a life

Why storytelling isn’t just about words, but about reclaiming your voice

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