Perryn Olson is a Principal at AltCMO, a firm providing fractional CMO services and marketing strategy tailored to construction and construction technology companies. With nearly two decades of experience in the industry, he specializes in aligning marketing with business development, recruiting, and company culture. Perryn holds certifications from SMPS and the Construction Marketing Association and is a recognized thought leader in construction marketing. He authored The Construction Executive’s Guide to Brand Marketing and frequently speaks at industry events.

Branding isn’t just about a logo or a slick website — it’s about making people feel something. In construction, that feeling can be the difference between winning a project or losing a job candidate. So how can firms build a brand that attracts both top-tier clients and loyal employees?

According to Perryn Olson, a veteran construction marketing strategist and author, it all starts with strong positioning that reflects a company’s values and culture. He highlights how many construction firms overlook branding’s role in recruiting, even though labor shortages continue to impact the industry. The best brands act like magnets, drawing in the right clients and talent while repelling poor fits. This clarity strengthens business development, builds alignment across teams, and avoids costly mismatches. Perryn also emphasizes the importance of aligning internal values with external messaging to build long-term trust and retention.

In this episode of the Response Drivers podcast, host Rick Rappe sits down with Perryn Olson, Principal at AltCMO, to discuss how construction firms can leverage branding to attract better clients and talent. They talk about overcoming the low-bid mindset, using ideal client profiles for growth, and how to stand out with B2B direct mail. Perryn also shares his insights on aligning marketing with internal operations to drive smarter strategy.

Ernest Tavares III is the Founder of First Step Growth, a performance marketing agency that helps direct-to-consumer brands scale profitably through data-driven advertising. With over $200 million in capital deployed across platforms like Meta, Google, TikTok, and Reddit, he specializes in lowering customer acquisition costs and boosting return on investment. A Wharton graduate, Ernest has led growth initiatives at startups including Mochi Health and Connie Health.

In today’s noisy digital world, getting in front of the right customer is harder and more expensive than ever. Marketers face rising ad costs, AI-altered search behavior, and increasingly fragmented channels. So how can startups scale smarter without wasting their budgets?

According to Ernest Tavares III, a seasoned growth marketing strategist who has deployed over $200 million in ad spend, the answer lies in using strong data signals instead of relying on outdated segmentation tactics. He highlights that modern platforms like Meta and Google are more efficient when fed clear conversion and customer match signals, allowing their algorithms to do what they do best: find buyers. The impact is better ROI and faster scaling. Ernest also explains that physical channels like direct mail, when paired with digital campaigns, can amplify conversions and stand out in ad-saturated markets.

In this episode of the Response Drivers podcast, host Rick Rappe sits down with Ernest Tavares III, Founder of First Step Growth, to discuss scaling smarter using AI, paid media, and direct mail. They explore why signal quality beats segmentation, how to use direct mail for retargeting, and what makes AI tools a secret weapon for lean teams. Ernest also shares tips for measuring performance with ROI-focused metrics.

Brad Schlachter is the Founder and CMO at Rise Business Ventures, a consultancy that provides fractional CMO services and growth strategies for companies in technology, media, and entertainment. With over 15 years of experience, he has led marketing initiatives for major brands like Disney, Microsoft, and Major League Baseball, as well as high-growth startups. His expertise includes scaling customer acquisition, improving conversion rates, and reducing churn through data-driven strategies.

Not all data is created equal — and not every marketing strategy delivers results. In a fast-moving digital landscape where vanity metrics often distract from true performance, how can marketers connect the dots between insight and action to drive sustainable growth?

According to Brad Schlachter, a seasoned full-funnel growth strategist, the key lies in aligning brand storytelling with data-driven performance marketing. He highlights the importance of developing strong brand positioning before scaling acquisition efforts. When startups skip this foundational work, they often struggle to stand out and fail to convert initial attention into long-term growth. Brad also emphasizes the need to test pricing strategies, pointing to his experience with MotorTrend+, where lower pricing unexpectedly led to longer retention and higher lifetime value. With thoughtful experimentation and a cross-functional approach, marketers can transform raw insights into strategic outcomes.

In this episode of the Response Drivers podcast, host Rick Rappe is joined by Brad Schlachter, Founder and CMO at Rise Business Ventures, to talk about turning insights into scalable marketing strategies. Brad shares how to build alignment across the full funnel, why pricing tests can unlock growth, and the overlooked power of emotional brand storytelling. He also gives advice on building trust to implement data-backed decisions.