In this episode of Beyond the Pulpit, Pastors Jon & Andrea Schwartz with special guest Pastors Esteban & Chari Orozco delves into the vital role of authentic relationships in church leadership. It highlights the importance of collaboration over competition among churches, focusing on building the Kingdom together. The discussion emphasizes a people-centered approach, where shepherding and genuine care for congregants take precedence over growth metrics or rivalries. Through honest conversations on challenging topics, church leaders can foster deeper connections and unity. Celebrating the unique skills within church communities, the episode underscores the importance of love, organic growth, and a shared Kingdom mindset for creating a thriving and effective ministry.

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