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S3E14: Kingdom or Rage w/ Elizabeth Neumann

S3E14: Kingdom or Rage w/ Elizabeth Neumann

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Season 3 Theme - One Virtual Road Trip, to Answer One Big Question, told as One Continuous Narrative Arc

Season 3 Focus - To answer one primary question, "How do we effectively live as a collective church body in today's world in tension?"


The lines between religion, politics, and nationalism have become increasingly blurred in the American public square. A sea of misinformation engulfs us, filled with messages of fear, division, and conspiracy theories. We are fed information within individually curated echo chambers which foster isolation, division, and mistrust. These distorted views can quickly evolve into radicalized ideologies and violent terrorist behavior.

We are joined by Elizabeth Neumann, the former Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland Security, to discuss her new book '⁠Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism⁠⁠⁠⁠ and the Path Back to Peace⁠'.⁠ Neumann shares her insights about U.S. terrorist activities and how the landscape has changed over the 20-year period between the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks in 2001 and the siege of the U.S. Capital building on 1/6/2021. She explains how the threat vector has moved from overseas actors to homegrown extremists that exist within our own backyard.

Come join the conversation as Neumann focuses in on the connection between radicalization, nationalistic convictions, and a quasi-Christian framework of belief. We talk about how to engage those headed down a pathway of radicalization and the role that the church can specifically play within politics and the local community.


Guest Information

Elizabeth Neumann is a national security expert,

violence prevention advocate, and author of the new

book 'Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism

and the Path Back to Peace'. She served on White

House Homeland Security Council in the George W.

Bush Administration, and as the Assistant Secretary

for Counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland

Security during the Trump Administration. She is

currently the Chief Strategy Officer for Moonshot - a

tech-enabled company supporting governments and

community partners to understand and prevent

violence. She is also a national security contributor for

ABC News.

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