We talk about:

• Growing up in a mountaineering family and how it shaped his mindset
• Why the “stoke” isn’t always about the activity—it’s about the people
• A deep dive (literally) into climbing El Cap: gear, prep, training, logistics, and sleeping on the wall
• What it feels like to fall, black out, and become a Search & Rescue legend in Zion 🤕
• How to get into climbing—from total beginner to multi-pitch dreamer
• The value of mentorship, planning, and doing hard things with friends
• Why some of the best trips are the ones that go a little wrong

This one is packed with honest stories, good laughs, and a lot of practical (and emotional) insight on what it means to live adventurously for the long haul. Whether you’re a climber, a canyoneer, a scuba diver, or just someone who wants to live with more stoke—you’re gonna love this.

🎧 Stick around for:

• Our near-death Neon Canyon trip
• Diving with bull sharks in Mexico
• The truth about how you go to the bathroom on a cliff face

In this episode, I’m hanging out with one of my oldest adventure friends, Alex Temus—aka “Alex Kayak” in my phone, because that’s how we met 8 years ago at a random BYU kayak club night.

We recorded this on the road heading to a canyoneering trip (during an eclipse, no less), and covered everything from how Alex got into climbing to what it was like sleeping on the side of El Capitan for 4 days straight. We also talk about:

• Growing up in an outdoorsy family and getting the “adventure bug”
• What it really takes to climb the Nose of El Cap
• That one time Alex fell in Zion and became low-key famous with search & rescue
• How having a stoked friend group changes everything

Advice for anyone looking to get started in climbing or any new adventure

Episode is just the intro. So if you are ready to jump into the El Cap climb experience head over to episode 2 and come back for the intro when you are ready!