What happens when people leave your church? It’s never easy—sometimes it’s silly, sometimes it’s painful, and sometimes it feels personal. In this episode, Jason and Nicole take a fresh look at the story of Paul, Barnabas, and John Mark—the original “Bible breakup.” Along the way, they share their own stories of church departures, rival churches that aren’t rivals, and the challenge of blessing and releasing people with grace. The good news? Even breakups can be redeemed. Sometimes God writes a reunion into the story.

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What if asking hard questions about your faith isn't rebellion, but a path toward deeper trust in Jesus? In this honest and hope-filled episode, Jason and Nicole unpack what "deconstruction" really means, why it is not a dirty word, and how it can lead to a stronger, more authentic walk with God.

From small-town church politics to generational gaps, cultural Christianity, and personal convictions, they address the real reasons people in Appalachia (and beyond) rethink their faith. Along the way, they share personal stories, biblical insights, and practical encouragement for those who are wrestling and for those walking alongside them.

Highlights include:

• Why deconstruction can be a healthy, biblical process
• How personal convictions can harm when forced on others
• Common cultural and church experiences that spark deconstruction
• Biblical examples of "holy deconstruction" from Jesus, the prophets, and the disciples
• Encouragement for rebuilding faith on the true foundation--Jesus

Whether you're in the middle of deconstruction, curious about it, or skeptical, this episode offers grace, perspective, and the reminder that the deepest worship often comes with the deepest wrestling.

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What does biblical submission really look like—and is it anything like what we were taught?

In this follow-up episode, we dig deeper into how Scripture consistently flips human power structures on their heads. From Deborah and Jael to Mary and the Samaritan woman, we explore how God calls and equips people others overlook—including women, outcasts, and even children.

We talk honestly about servant leadership, mutual surrender in marriage, and why submission used as control is no longer Christlike—it’s oppression. Nicole shares part of her journey in accepting a call to preach while navigating old ideas about home leadership, and Jason reminds us that Jesus isn’t looking for the strongest—He’s looking for the most surrendered.

Whether you’re wrestling with gender roles, marriage dynamics, or ministry leadership, this conversation invites you to lay down fear and control and pick up love, equality, and mutual grace.

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