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The Developmental

The Developmental

著者： Alis Anagnostakis (Ph.D.)
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 A podcast about the messy, beautiful ways grown-ups grow up. Leaders, learning experts and developmental researchers come together to explore turning science into the day-to-day practice of adult development in teams, homes, organisations, and life. Dr Alis Anagnostakis is an adult development researcher, group learning facilitator and founder of the Vertical Development Institute. Her highest hope as a researcher-practitioner is to help support the growth of conscious, mature and future-fit leaders and to bring the tools of vertical development into day-to-day to day life.

www.verticaldevelopment.education©Alis Anagnostakis Ph.D. マネジメント マネジメント・リーダーシップ 社会科学 科学 経済学
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  • Hacking Narcissism

    Hacking Narcissism
    2025/08/04
    In this episode of The Developmental, I’m in conversation with fellow Substacker, Dr. Nathalie Martinek, an independent researcher and facilitator whose story and work brings new clarity to the messy business of human growth. We explore how narcissism, and the shadow of shame that often goes with it, can be reframed not as a clinical label, but as a relational pattern that we each play a part in.Nathalie takes us from her time as a researcher in cancer biology labs to her own mirror moment: discovering how people (including herself) can behave like cancerous cells within toxic organisational cultures. In this episode, she shares:A vivid reframing of narcissism as something we all carry in relationship dynamicsA powerful three‑fold shame framework for navigating inner resistance when we set boundariesPractical tools—from narrative reframing to the Drama Triangle—to support courageous and relationally healthy leadershipI hope this conversation encourages you to lean into your own developmental edge, helps you discover new pathways to model what you teach and walk the talk as leaders, becoming, as Nathalie beautifully says, an antidote to relational toxicity.Episode Highlights:00:00 – Welcome & IntroAlis introduces Nathalie and sets the scene for a deep dive into shame, narcissism, and walking the talk in leadership and facilitation.04:20 – From Cancer Biology to Human SystemsNathalie shares how her early science career in cancer research led her to study dysfunctional human systems and relational toxicity.12:05 – Becoming the Cancer CellA raw reflection on recognising her own toxic behaviours within toxic systems—and the wake-up call that led to change.19:15 – Spiritual Awakening & Finding a New PathThe messy, long road from burnout to learning reflective practice, spiritual healing, and group facilitation.26:40 – Walking the TalkNathalie explains how the Family Partnership Model demands facilitators model what they teach—and how she learned to embody it.34:15 – What Not Walking the Talk Looks LikeReal examples from facilitation settings—when leaders perform care but undermine psychological safety.42:50 – Moral Courage in FacilitationWhat to do when the person with the most power in the room (the leader) is also part of the problem.49:10 – Hacking Your Own NarcissismNathalie redefines narcissism as a relational pattern, not a pathology, and invites facilitators (and leaders) to examine their power and need for control.55:50 – Three Types of ShameNathalie introduces her brilliant framework:Shame 1: Breaking rules you didn’t know existed.Shame 2: Violating your own values to conform.Shame 3: Feeling guilt after setting healthy boundaries.1:09:10 – Good Person Syndrome & Boundary GuiltExploring the tension between being a “good person” and choosing self-alignment over others’ comfort.1:16:35 – Practical Tools for Working with ShameFrom reframing narratives to breathing exercises and working with Karpman’s Drama Triangle as a reflection tool.1:23:00 – Final ReflectionsWhy increasing our tolerance to shame might be one of the most powerful levers for individual and collective transformation.Guest Bio: Dr. Nathalie MartinekNathalie Martinek, PhD, helps people build relational leadership capacity and cultivate effective relationships in professional life, while also supporting those who’ve been scapegoated, sidelined, or harmed in environments that protect image over people. As a coach, she works with professionals to shift unhelpful relational patterns and navigate subtle power dynamics. As a group facilitator, she creates spaces for learning, applied reflection, and restoration. As a consultant, she helps individuals make sense of workplace dysfunction and emerge intact, with insight into the system and how to move forward. Her approach draws on years of practice inside and alongside institutions, informed by an early career in developmental biology and cancer research, where she studied how environments shape behaviour and how systems enable dysfunction. Nathalie writes and teaches on scapegoating, narcissistic systems, relational leadership, and the emotional forces that shape them. She is the author of The Little Book of Assertiveness, The Scapegoating Playbook at Work, and creator of Hacking Narcissism on Substack. Get full access to Vertical Development: How Grown-ups Grow Up at www.verticaldevelopment.education/subscribe
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  • Becoming Deliberately Developmental

    Becoming Deliberately Developmental
    2025/06/03
    Welcome to a soulful, candid conversation with experienced coach Donna Trebilcock who is, without a doubt, one of the wisest and most passionate people leaders I have ever met, working in service of a one-of-a-kind brave, norm-bending organisation: Chorus. Together, we explore how deliberately developmental principles are being put into practice within Chorus — through redefining leadership, cultivating collective responsibility, and fostering environments where people can grow into their next developmental edge, but also Donna’s own journey or vertical development and the way it has enabled her to hold space for others’ growth. Donna invites us to a space where raw vulnerability is balanced with practical insights, offering a window into what it really takes to build a developmental organization while becoming a developmental person.If you are in any shape and form involved in leading people or leading people functions, or perhaps coaching or facilitating the growth of people in work contexts, this episode is not to be missed.Episode Summary* [00:00:00] Introduction to Donna Trebilcock* Donna’s background and coaching approach.* Introduction to Chorus as a self-managing, purpose-driven organization.* [00:03:00] The Reality of Developmental Work* How personal and organisational growth journeys are intertwined* [00:10:00] Identity and Developmental Transition* The inner struggle: “Who am I if I’m not indispensable?”* Donna’s transition from Achiever to Redefining and coaching as a turning point. * [00:18:00] The Role of Experimentation in Developmental Leadership* Concrete team-level experiments (e.g., peer feedback in meetings).* Removing top-down control creates empowered, engaged teams.* [00:23:00] Inside the Chorus Experiment* Chorus’ unique model: flat, no hierarchy, no job titles.* Internal coaching evolving from performance focus to deep developmental work.* [00:28:00] Leading Without Authority* Challenges of influence without power.* Coaching as key to growing leadership capacity at all levels.* [00:31:00] Democratizing Power and Accountability* Playbooks co-created by staff.* Agreement-making frameworks that anticipate and hold conflict.* [00:35:00] Impact and Outcomes* Increased engagement, innovation, autonomy.* Vertical development becoming core to the culture.* [00:38:00] Growth Labs and Organizational Learning* Development becoming embedded across onboarding, meetings, and eventually recruitment.* Creating local autonomy and minimizing centralized enabling functions.* [00:43:00] The Messiness of Developmental Work* Dealing with legacy structures and culture.* Compassion and patience as foundational mindsets.* [00:48:00] When Empowerment Pushes Back* Confronting the discomfort of power being questioned.* Walking the talk as a leadership team, even when it’s hard.* [00:51:00] Slowing Down to Speed Up* Developmental debriefs in high-pressure times.* Counterintuitive moves to nurture sustainable growth.* [00:55:00] Donna’s Advice to Her Earlier Self* Expect and embrace the mess.* Compassion for self and others is essential fuel.* [00:59:00] Hope and the Ripple Effect* Recognising human potential and the messy, gritty, real work of making the world better.Guest Bio: Donna TrebilcockDonna is a certified Executive, Organisational, and Systems Coach specialising in leadership and team development through a vertical (adult development) lens. She supports leaders and teams to grow in complexity, strengthen relationships, and navigate meaningful change — especially in progressive, self-managing, or values-led organisations.With deep experience coaching individuals and teams at all levels, she brings a grounded, developmental approach to building high-performing, purpose-driven cultures. She works in close partnership with clients to co-create coaching engagements that meet them where they are and support their most important goals.Donna’s practice is shaped by ongoing professional development and lived experience in complex, adaptive organisational systems. She is passionate about the real work of leadership — cultivating the inner capacity to lead amidst uncertainty, build trust, and grow collective intelligence.Key qualifications and tools Donna brings to coaching partnerships include: • Certified in Executive, Organisational and Relationship Systems Coaching • Leadership Maturity Profile (LMP) accredited • Leadership Circle Profile (LCP) 360-degree accredited • ORSC (Organisation & Relationship Systems Coaching) trained • NLP Practitioner • CILCA360 accredited • Shifting Horizons Advanced Practitioner Certified • Expert workshop design and facilitation (from small teams to whole systems) • Experienced in large-scale transformation and public sector environmentsDive deeperI hope you’ve enjoyed this podcast. If you are curious to dive more deeply into learning about Vertical Development and how it might impact your work and life, check out our online ...
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  • Concept of Self

    Concept of Self
    2025/03/25
    For this episode, I sat down with researcher, coach, and lifelong explorer Heather Frost to dive into her fascinating work on the concept of self. From global travel to coaching, psychology and philosophy, Heather shares how her journey led her to ask one of life’s most fundamental questions: What is the Self? Together, we unpack the difference between self-concept and the Concept of Self, explore how different understandings of self shape behaviour and identity, and consider what this all means for coaching, adult development, and how we relate to each other. I hope you leave this conversation with a new perspective on yourself and with renewed curiosity about the complexity and beauty of our minds.Episode Summary00:00 – 05:30 | Origins of the Inquiry into SelfHeather’s lifelong curiosity about how people make sense of themselves, shaped by travel, philosophy, coaching, and neuroscience.05:30 – 10:30 | Embracing UncertaintyImmersive travel as a practice of “not knowing” — cultivating openness, resilience, and a fluid sense of self.10:30 – 15:30 | How Not-Knowing Changes UsAlis and Heather explore how dislocation and risk can deepen self-awareness and transform identity.15:30 – 23:00 | Kindness, Openness, and HumilityExposure to difference builds compassion and dissolves rigid identity boundaries.23:00 – 31:00 | Defining Terms: Self-Concept vs. Concept of SelfClear distinction:* Self-concept = beliefs about who I am* Concept of self = what I think the “self” is31:00 – 39:00 | The 3 Spectrums of SelfHeather’s research reveals three key dimensions:* Stability – Is self constant or evolving?* Unity vs. Multiplicity – One self or many?* Thoughts-as-Self vs. Thoughts-as-Patterns39:00 – 44:30 | Why This Matters in CoachingThe Concept of Self influences agency, decision-making, and behaviour change. Coaches must listen for clues in the client's language.44:30 – 54:00 | Adapting Coaching ApproachesTailor your methods: future visualisation works for stable self-views; emergent experiments work better for fluid self-views.54:00 – 1:01:00 | Reframing Limiting BeliefsNo “right” way to view the self — ask: Does this belief serve the client in their context?1:01:00 – 1:08:00 | Links to Adult DevelopmentLater developmental stages often correlate with fluid, multi-part understandings of self — but nuance and fit matter more than hierarchy.1:08:00 – 1:13:00 | Practice for CoachesReflect on your own concept of self. Tune into how your clients relate to Self — and coach accordingly.1:13:00 – End | Final ReflectionsHeather’s hope: deeper awareness of how we understand “self” can foster more compassionate, skillful coaching — and a more tolerant world.Guest Bio: Heather FrostHeather is the Founder and Director of People and Practice, Co-founder of Think Perspective and Visiting Tutor at Henley Business School. She has over 20 years of experience of experience in behaviour change; coaching, mentoring, training, and consulting to clients including Deloitte, Oxentia, Accenture and Kantar. Deeply driven to understand different cultures and the systems that influence behaviour, Heather has lived as a resident in four countries and travelled extensively to over forty countries. Her commercial work with organisations, executives, leaders, and teams incorporates her global experience and expertise in culture change, business transformation, learning and development, organisational development, leadership development, and systemic change.Heather holds a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology (BPsych) with a minor in Philosophy, a Master of Science in Coaching & Behavioural Change (MSc) and is currently a Doctoral Researcher (PhD) in Leadership, Organisations and Behaviour at Henley Business School. Heather won a fully funded scholarship through the Henley Business School flagship "World of Work" award. Heather's research and coaching focuses on the link between self-awareness, meta-cognition, consciousness, sense of agency, quality of thought, beliefs, culture, purpose, and behaviour: ultimately how individuals "act" and behave. Her newly developed psychological scale which measures the Concept-of-Self, upcoming published work, writing, and training helps coaches understand how their “self” and the self of their client’s manifest and interact. Her research explores practitioner self-deception, bias and self-delusion, the self-as-instrument, mindfulness, neuroscience and meaning in life.Heather is a certified Lumina Learning Practitioner, an accredited coach with the International Coaching Federation (ACC) and a Senior Practitioner with the European Mentoring & Coaching Council (EMCC). She holds the following certifications from INSEAD: Leading Organisations in Disruptive Times, Innovation in the Age of Disruption, Strategy in the Age of Digital Disruption and Leading in a Transforming World. She is a Certified Six Sigma Green Belt from PMI (CSSGB). Heather is also an ...
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