In this episode, Ayofemi sits down with cultural strategist and leader Kemi Ilesanmi, founder of KGI Projects, for a timely and layered conversation on creative leadership, transformation, and the power of African diasporic futures. Originally recorded in February 2025, but even more resonant today, this dialogue explores what it means to hold space for artists, communities, and institutions in a moment of deep flux.

Together, they reflect on the shifting cultural landscape—from the reconfiguration of traditional cultural, civic, and community institutions to the rise of African and Black diasporic narratives as central forces in shaping global culture. Ayofemi also shares why she chose to wait before releasing the episode, trusting the timing and sensing that this conversation would land more powerfully in a moment of even greater urgency and resonance.

Tune in for reflections on purpose, cultural care, and the creative responsibility of this moment—and why now, more than ever, inspiration and interdependence are the way forward.

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In this episode of The E36 Podcast, host Ayofemi Kirby, Chief Strategist of ElevenThirtySix Strategies, dives into the concept that creativity, rather than change, is life’s true constant.

Ayofemi shares how she's navigated an overwhelming influx of information by returning to a personal commitment to creativity. Consider how you can harness your creative thinking to reshape the future, even in times of upheaval. You’ll also discover why destruction often precedes innovation, and how trusting in your own creative power can keep you grounded when everything else feels uncertain.

Show notes and resources:

• 1:30 - Dr. John Demartini - the quality of our days and the quality of our lives is determined by the quality of questions we ask ourselves.
• 2:30 - Creativity as a guiding principle and core value
• 3:16 - Change happens to us, creativity is under our control
• 4:06 - Throughout human history, it is through creativity that we have been able to shape and reshape our realities over and over again.
• 4:45 - In every act of destruction there is an act of creation.
• 6:36 - How to use creativity to help you get unstuck.

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In this episode, we tackle Trump’s proposed crackdown on DEI programs—a move that’s sparking heated debate for its impact on workplace culture and marginalized communities. We discuss the pitfalls of superficial “box-checking” approaches to diversity, explore how organizations might respond if forced to rethink their commitments, and examine whether this brash policy could unintentionally trigger more authentic, lasting inclusion.

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