Q&A Episode in the house!

We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).

"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"

Then we get to talk about:

• 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?!
• Gut Types
• How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame
• Essence v Personality
• 9s and Anger
• and more!

Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact

PLUG TIME

Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com !

Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community!

TODAY'S INTRO

• Captain Phillips (2013, Columbia Pictures)
• Ron Swanson (Parks and Rec, s3, e9)
• Angry Woman (Ashe, 2022)

Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!

Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.

Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com

“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

• Spirituality and the Enneagram

ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC

September 5-6, 2025

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte

• Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You

The Micah Center in Dallas, TX

August 29, 2025

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty

TODAY's INTRO

• 40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)
• Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)
• Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)
• The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos)

Let's do some math.

2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!

Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.

• Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?
• The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.
• Parenting with the struggles of social media.
• Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!
• aaaaaaaand more

"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS

You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

• Spirituality and the Enneagram

ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC

September 5-6, 2025

REGISTRATION WILL BE UP SOON!

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)
• Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)
• Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount)

Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!

The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!

• How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?
• Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram
• We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers
• Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more

"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."

- RH

To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• "Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)
• Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9

Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!

As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?

"You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS

"I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• South Park (Comedy Central: s14, e2)
• SNL (NBC: s23, e11)
• SNL (NBC: s17, e7)

Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).

Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one

• Escaping to the future
• What do you do when you're restless?
• Balance
• Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number
• Do you respond to strangers online?
• Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparents
• and more!

"Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW

PLUG TIME

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM

Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:

lifeinthetrinityministry.com

theenneagramjourney.com

suzannestabile.com

TODAY'S INTRO

• The Departed (2006 Warner Bros.)
• Laura Addis on TEJ Podcast
• F.R.I.E.N.D.S (NBC, s3 e18)

Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne!

If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and application at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram

Other Plugs

• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp

"What Is Mine To Do?"

August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online

lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc

• The King Speaker Series

Enneagram Stances

June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas

1pres.org/kingspeaker

• IEA Global Conference

IEA Enneagram Experience 2025

July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN

ieaexperience.com

You can find out what the podcast is up to and other offerings from Life in the Trinity Ministry by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com.

TODAY'S INTRO

• Des Bishop - Mindfulness
• F.R.I.E.N.D.S. (NBC, S4 E23)
• "Indignant" - The Definition Channel
• Darnell Young on TEJ Podcast

You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!).

PLUG TIME

Great events coming up:

• TheoEd Talks Nashville - February 23 in Nashville at Woolworth Theatre or Online
• The Enneagram Journey Live - February 25 in Nashville at Beam Gallery
• A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28 and March 1 in Nashville at Woodmont Christian Church
• Relationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8 in South Carolina at Bethel UMC
• 2025 IEA Global Conference - July 25-25 in Minneapolis
• 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp - SAVE THE DATE! August 7-9 in Dallas and Online

Today's Intro

• The Breakup (2006, Universal Pictures)
• Scrubs (S3, E5)
• American Dad (S10, E8)