Karin Jones believes sex and intimacy are a big part of our lives, and she challenges personal historians to gently explore this topic with their storytelling clients.

Karin's controversial article appeared in New York Times' "Modern Love" column. "What Sleeping About Married Men Taught Me About Infidelity"

Find Karin Jones' bimonthly column, "Savvy Love," at the Erotic Review Magazine, or on her Savvy Love blog at https://www.savvy-love.com/blog.

Follow Karin on Twitter: @mskarinjones

Curious about Esther Perel? Read about her fascinating story.

Gloria's website: https://www.real-to-reel.org/

Gloria's Equipment List

Gloria's website:https://www.real-to-reel.org/

In this episode, we're going back to the first part of our conversation with Lisa Kagan.

As an artist and writer, Lisa is fascinated by the intersection of visual art and storytelling. She brings all her gifts to bear on the illustrated heirloom books her company produces, allowing the clients a chance to become intimately involved in the creation of the words and images of their life story book.

She also talks about:

• connecting to her community as an artist and creative, and how that has helped her organically grow her business
• contracting other personal history professionals for editing, book design, production, and more
• the elements of her initial sales conversations

If you missed the first part of our conversation, where Lisa talks about her workshops and retreats, you can find that here.

Family Heirloom Arts offers the usual range of services to its personal history clients: interviewing, writing, editing, photo management. But its founder and owner, Lisa Kagan, takes things a step further by inviting clients to create their own personalized artwork to illustrate their books.

That's just one of the things that makes Family Heirloom Arts unique. In this interview, we talk about:

• Lisa's roster of workshops and retreats, and how she leverages established organizations such as the library to market them

• the difference between outcome-based and process-based workshops and retreats

• how fans of her workshops sometimes turn into personal history clients
• a good place to start if you're just getting going with workshops

We also talked about Family Heirloom Art's upcoming weekend retreat, Self Portrait of the Inner Landscape: Exploring Personal Mythology Through Writing and Mask Making

Lisa Lombard O'Reilly of Your Stories Written joins us for a conversation about personal history. Listen as we discuss:

• Lisa's experience writing her dad's life story book
• using Kindle Direct Publishing for cheap proof copies and supplying friends with print-on-demand books
• Lisa's monthly column on personal history for Coastal View, a local print publication

Lisa approached the publisher of Coastal View after attending a workshop given by Annie Payne, a colleague out of Australia. Annie gave expert advice on mastering your community and becoming the go-to personal historian.

Lisa also talked about being featured on a blog post by a woman with an historical press. Clairitage Press specializes in local history, with titles written by Karen Dustman. Read the article here or here.

If you want more ideas about writing local history, check out Episode 47 with Patricia Hamilton.

Find Lisa Lombari O'Reilly at her website, Your Stories Written

Join us for an insightful conversation about the business of personal history and the art of interviewing.

In this episode, Lettice discusses:

• how much she charges for life story projects, and how that number has grown through the years
• a clever pre-meeting tactic that gets Lettice into the right frame of mind for that always-difficult money conversation with clients [Correction: with this technique, it doesn't have to be diffult!]
• how, when, and why to bring in outside editing help
• working with a partner
• the extreme importance of listening, no matter how you do it best [Knitting optional]

You can find Lettice Stuart at Portraits in Words

Other episodes mentioned:

29: Rutger Bruining of Story Terrace

53: Part 1, Christine Norton Helps Life Story Writers Get Up and Running

54: Christine Norton, Part 2

Lettice Stuart was a journalist with stories in the New York Times when she shifted to writing life stories. While her writing credentials helped give her credibility, it was good old-fashioned conversations with people that grew her business.

In part one of the interview, we discuss:

• the importance of talking about your personal history work in any social situation, and why it's easy
• how and why to contact groups looking for speakers
• what to include when you give a public presentation

We also talk about why family members may not be capable of getting to the same stories that personal historians do. And what a magical moment it is when you see the light go on in the storyteller's eyes: the book is important, the telling of the stories even more so.

Stay tuned for the second half of our conversation with Lettice, where Lettice shares how much she charges for her life story books, how she prepares for the money conversation with clients, working with outside editors, and more.

You can find Lettice Stuart at Portraits in Words

Want to hear more about the art of interviewing?

Check out Episode 3: How to conduct a great interview