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The Long Game

The Long Game

著者: Allie Decker David Ly Khim Alex Birkett
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The Long Game shares personal and business success stories where long-term thinking triumphs. Join us for discussions about the frameworks, principles, and learnings that drive success in business.2024 Omniscient Digital, The Long Game マネジメント・リーダーシップ マーケティング マーケティング・セールス リーダーシップ 経済学
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  • Scrappy to Strategic: Erik Episcopo on Building SEO Systems, Navigating AI Shifts, and a Growth Mindset
    2025/06/04

    In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, David Khim interviews Erik Episcopo, SEO Manager at Wiz, one of the fastest-growing cloud security companies (recently acquired by Google). Erik shares his unconventional career path, from answering a Craigslist ad while in Taiwan to building high-scale SEO programs at CrowdStrike and Wiz. They discuss what it takes to be a “super IC,” how AI is reshaping SEO workflows and strategy, and the importance of staying curious and adaptable in a shifting landscape. From experimenting with AI-assisted content to managing massive content refresh cycles, Erik offers a thoughtful, energetic view into what modern growth-focused SEO looks like.

    Key Takeaways

    • From Craigslist to Cloud Security: Erik began his SEO journey in Taiwan via Craigslist, building scrappy resume content—and now runs enterprise SEO at Wiz.
    • What Makes a Super IC: Top individual contributors creatively solve problems, leverage AI, and own results without waiting for permission.
    • Hiring for AI Fluency: Erik looks for candidates with real-world AI experiments, not just philosophical opinions on LLMs and content automation.
    • SEO Workflows at Scale: At Wiz, Erik scaled content from day one—launching engines, refreshing content, and coordinating localization at speed.
    • Early Career Lessons from Link Building: Writing hundreds of persona-based HARO pitches helped Erik master storytelling, resourcefulness, and outreach.
    • The Value of Scrappiness: A past filled with “gray hat” tactics taught Erik the limits of SEO and how to think like a growth-minded marketer.
    • Learning > Stagnation: A guiding principle for Erik is: if you're not learning or growing, it's time to move—and that's fueled his career pivots.

    Show Links

    • Visit Wiz and its Cloud Native Application Protection Platforms page
    • Connect with Erik Episcopo on LinkedIn
    • Connect with David Khim on LinkedIn and Twitter
    • Connect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or Twitter

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

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    56 分
  • Kitchen Side: From Traffic to Influence - Marketing in the Age of AI (and AI Mode)
    2025/05/28
    In this Kitchen Side episode of The Long Game Podcast, the Omniscient Digital team dives into Google's new “AI Mode” for search and the broader implications of generative AI across content marketing and SEO. They explore the shift toward conversational, zero-click search experiences, the erosion of attribution data, and how marketers need to adapt in a world where AI Overviews and LLMs are changing how users discover information. With insights on content visibility, LLM optimization, brand mentions, measurement challenges, and even some “gray hat” strategies, this episode captures the tension between innovation and uncertainty in the age of AI-enhanced search.Key TakeawaysGoogle’s AI Mode Redefines Search: The new Gemini-powered interface transforms Google into a conversational AI assistant, bypassing traditional search paths.Attribution is Getting Murkier: AI Mode and zero-click searches are making it harder to track SEO performance and justify investment.Brand Mentions Beat Backlinks: LLMs prioritize citations and visibility across platforms more than technical SEO or link-building.SEO is Shifting from Keywords to Visibility: Context, off-site presence, and how content is referenced matter more than keyword density.Marketers Need First-Principles Thinking: Foundational tactics still apply—like voice of customer and content structure—but need reframing for the AI era.Creative “Gray Hat” Tactics Exist: Ideas like editing Wikipedia, acquiring cited domains, or seeding Reddit threads can boost LLM citations.Measurement Will Require New Playbooks: Marketers must blend traditional analytics with self-reported attribution and qualitative feedback.Show LinksConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Allie Decker on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterWhat is Kitchen Side?One big benefit of running an agency or working at one is you get to see the “kitchen side” of many different businesses; their revenue, their operations, their automations, and their culture.You understand how things look from the inside and how that differs from the outside.You understand how the sausage is made. As an agency ourselves, we’re working both on growing our clients’ businesses as well as our own. This podcast is one project, but we also blog, make videos, do sales, and have quite a robust portfolio of automations and hacks to run our business.We want to take you behind the curtain, to the kitchen side of our business, to witness our brainstorms, discussions, and internal dialogues behind the public works that we ship.Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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  • Navigating the AI Hype: The Opportunity for Marketers, Optimizing for LLMs, Specific Use Cases, and Making AI More Accessible
    2025/05/14
    In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, David Khim interviews Britney Muller—SEO scientist, AI educator, and former Hugging Face marketing lead—about the practical side of AI in marketing. Britney shares how her obsession with machine learning began in 2014 and how it evolved into creating her course Actionable AI for Marketers. They discuss the overuse of buzzwords like “AI agents,” the shift from backlinks to brand mentions, and the importance of making AI workflows approachable. Britney is passionate about demystifying AI, showing how it can be applied to real tasks like data analysis, strategy, and automation—without needing a technical background.Key TakeawaysAI Should Be Accessible: Marketers don’t need to be technical experts—AI can empower anyone to work smarter with the right guidance and workflows. From Backlinks to Brand Mentions: AI-powered search increasingly prioritizes brand visibility across platforms over traditional link-building strategies. Buzzwords Like “AI Agents” Are Misleading: The term lacks clarity and often masks tools with vague or unproven capabilities. Prompt Engineering Is a Skill, Not Magic: Effective AI use begins with well-structured, specific prompts tailored to clear business goals. AI Is Already Automating Workflows: From cleaning datasets to automating outreach, AI has everyday use cases when integrated thoughtfully. Beware the AI Hype Cycle: Brittany encourages marketers to avoid philosophical hype and focus on practical, ethical AI applications. Start with Your Own Use Cases: The most valuable AI solutions are customized—start small with your real tasks and build from there. Show LinksVisit Data SciCheck Britney Muller's Actionable AI for Marketers courseConnect with Britney Muller on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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