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The Messy Leadership Podcast

The Messy Leadership Podcast

著者: Christi Scarrow
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Managing people is hard. You’re constantly juggling the need to give constructive feedback, hold others accountable, and inspire change. "Messy Leadership" is here to help you navigate these complexities. Hosted by Christi Scarrow twice a month, this podcast features candid conversations with seasoned leaders who share their personal stories, struggles, and strategies to navigate the chaos and thrive. If you’re ready to embrace the mess and lead with confidence, clarity, and authenticity, this podcast is for you.Christi Scarrow マネジメント マネジメント・リーダーシップ 経済学
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  • Leading with Humour in Tough Times (with Scott Lorimer)
    2025/05/20

    Host Christi Scarrow talks to Scott Lorimer, VP of Sales at Campbell's. Scott shares leadership insights rooted in his early work at McDonald’s. He emphasizes how combining hard work with fun has been foundational in shaping his career. Lorimer reflected on the challenges of team motivation and giving feedback. He advocates for strategies that "create flight, not drag" and tailoring support to individual motivations. He underlines the importance of authenticity, consistency, humility, and humor in effective leadership. While humor can ease stress and boost morale, he noted the need for sensitivity to different personalities and situations.



    Action Items



    -Intentionally add humor and positivity to your leadership, while being mindful of timing and tone.
    -Take time to understand individual team member motivations and provide tailored support.
    -Give direct feedback in a way that encourages growth—“creating flight, not drag.”
    -Stay humble and consistently seek feedback to evolve as a leader.



    Outline


    Scott Lorimer’s Early Career Lessons


    -Scott reflects on his first job at McDonald’s, where he learned the value of working hard and having fun.
    -He recounts his journey from crew to swing shift manager and how that shaped his leadership.
    -He shares their mantra of “If you have time to lean, you have time to clean” which encourages people to find something to do, work hard and provide value



    The Importance of Fun in Leadership


    -Scott shares how humor helps him manage stress and maintain a positive team culture.
    -He discusses the delicate balance between humor and sarcasm and being mindful of how humor is received.
    -Christi adds her perspective on dark humor and the complexity of respecting different senses of humor.



    Balancing Stress and Leadership


    -Scott emphasizes staying calm and lighthearted during tough situations.
    -He quotes, “Leaders get the behaviors they exhibit or tolerate,” highlighting the power of example.
    -He stresses the importance of giving timely feedback that uplifts rather than demoralizes.
    -A personal story illustrates how direct feedback helped him grow.



    Motivating Teams and Providing Feedback


    -Scott explores the difficulty of motivating teams and giving effective feedback in fast-paced environments.
    -He suggests a feedback approach that blends directness with positivity.
    -He stresses the importance of understanding individual motivations and investing time in team relationships
    -He champions authenticity, consistency, humility, and the value of seeking feedback as a leader.



    Advice for New Leaders


    -New leaders should focus on enabling others to achieve results—not doing all the work themselves.
    -Scott shares how early feedback helped him see the value of empowering his team.
    -He stresses authenticity, self-awareness, and consistency.
    -Finally, he encourages leaders to seek feedback and stay thoughtful and curious in team interactions.



    Useful Links

    Host: Christi's Web Page

    Guest: Campbell’s

    Lighthouse NINE Group: Website



    Contributors

    Music: All The Fixings by Zachariah Hickman

    Editing: tribe74

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    25 分
  • Let the Talent be the Talent (With Judy Whittaker)
    2025/05/06

    Host Christi Scarrow and Judy Whittaker explore the challenges and lessons of leadership, with a focus on people management. Judy shares her evolution from entrepreneur to corporate leader, emphasizing the role of coaching and vulnerability. A pivotal conversation between the two—over 20 years ago—sparked Judy's commitment to better leadership. The discussion highlights emotional intelligence, mental health, and aligning leadership with personal values. Judy encourages leaders to embrace mentorship, ongoing learning, and open communication..



    Action Items



    -Read "Atomic Habits" by James Clear, "Think Like a Monk" by Jay Shetty and "The Atlas of the Heart" and "The Power of Vulnerability" by Brené Brown



    -Recognize that dropping people into people roles will not set them up for success. Invest in building coaching skills for your managers and yourself.



    -Develop emotional intelligence by finding a mentor that shares the same values as you



    -Embrace vulnerability and ask the right questions to learn what your team needs to feel valued



    Outline



    Judy Whittaker's Early Leadership Challenges



    -Christi introduces Judy, noting her extensive background and their long professional relationship.



    -Judy reflects on moving from entrepreneurship to corporate leadership, shifting from self-reliance to managing a team.



    -She recalls a key conversation with Christi that launched her journey to become a better coach and motivator.



    -Christi also shares her own growth and takeaways from their shared experiences.



    The Power of Vulnerability in Leadership



    -Judy discusses how embracing vulnerability helped her connect with her team and grow as a leader.



    -Christi highlights the difficulty of leading without prior experience and understanding team motivations.



    -Judy notes many leaders are promoted for technical skills, not people skills, underscoring the need for coaching and mentoring.



    -Both agree vulnerability builds trust and respect within teams.



    Emotional Intelligence & Mental Health in Leadership



    -Judy shares her journey of self-awareness, emphasizing emotional intelligence and mental health.



    -Christi observes that younger leaders are more open to these topics than previous generations.



    -Judy encourages therapy, coaching, or mentorship for leaders seeking growth.



    -Both highlight the importance of self-care in balancing personal and professional responsibilities.



    Building Trust & Supporting Team Members



    -Judy recounts helping a volunteer feel valued, showing the power of listening and understanding.



    -She stresses avoiding assumptions and instead seeking to understand what drives team behavior.



    -Judy advises creating safe spaces for open dialogue.



    -Vulnerability, again, is seen as key to fostering a supportive and trusting team culture.



    Practical Tips for Effective Leadership



    -Judy recommends staying curious, always learning, and finding trusted mentors.



    -Christi shares her success with peer coaching and the value of walking meetings for authentic communication.



    -Judy urges leaders to align their values with their leadership style and choose mentors who reflect those values.



    -Authenticity and vulnerability are highlighted as core elements for motivating others.



    Final Thoughts & Recommended Resources



    -Judy reinforces the value of vulnerability and lifelong learning, sharing her go-to leadership reads.



    -Christi thanks Judy, reflecting on their progress and growth over the years.



    -They close by affirming the ongoing journey of leadership and the enduring importance of vulnerability.



    Useful Links

    Host: Christi's Web Page

    Guest: TBD

    Lighthouse NINE Group: Website

    Contributors

    Music: All The Fixings by Zachariah Hickman


    Editing: tribe74

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    27 分
  • People Before Policies: The Art of Being Human (with Stéphane Grenier)
    2025/04/22
    Host Christi Scarrow and Stéphane Grenier, founder of Mental Health Innovations Consulting, discussed his leadership journey, emphasizing the “leaders eat last” philosophy—putting employee needs before personal interests. Grenier criticized rigid organizational policies and stressed flexible, people-first leadership. He also called out token mental health initiatives like Mental Health Awareness Week and Bell Let's Talk Day, advocating instead for cultures built on genuine care and peer support. He emphasized that shifting organizational culture to support mental health is a long-term, patient process.Action Items-Establish a culture of care where employees feel empowered to support each other.-Avoid short-term fixes; commit to a multi-year process for lasting mental health support.-Be patient and persistent—results may not be immediate, but they will come.OutlineLeadership Lessons from the Military-Stéphane recalls his military leadership experiences, where inspiring people mattered more than raising voices.-He embraced the “leaders eat last” mindset—leaders ensure employees have what they need to thrive.-Success comes from focusing on people, not just performance metrics.Balancing Performance and Individual Needs-Stéphane argues for policies that are flexible and adaptable to real human needs.-He critiques rigid bereavement rules and shares a general’s advice: make exceptions when policies fail people.-Leaders must be courageous and prioritize humanity over uniformity.The Role of Policies and Flexibility-Policies should guide, not dictate, leadership behavior.-Leaders need the courage to bend policies when necessary to support their people.-A people-first approach sometimes requires risk tolerance and rule-bending.Creating a Culture of Care-Stéphane critiques symbolic gestures like awareness weeks, which lack lasting impact.-True care comes from continuous, meaningful efforts to value and support staff.-Leaders must cultivate environments where peer support is natural and encouraged.Empowering Peers for Support-Leaders should not try to do everything alone—they must enable peer support systems.-It’s about creating an open, trusting culture where employees reach out to one another.-Employees should feel seen, supported, and valued by both leaders and peers.The Long-Term Investment in Mental Health-Stéphane identifies three leadership mindsets: dismissive, complacent, and transformational.-Only those committed to real change will see deep, lasting results.-Organizational culture shifts are slow but worth the time and effort.The Importance of Patience and Long-Term Investment-Culture change is like buying an air conditioner—it’s a long-term investment, not an instant fix.-Leaders must stay focused on building the right conditions and be prepared to wait for results.-Consistent effort pays off in the form of sustainable well-being and improved morale.The Role of Leaders in Setting Conditions-Leaders don’t need all the answers—they need to create the right environment for support to flourish.-Empowering others is key to a strong, self-sustaining culture of care.-Patience, empathy, and long-term thinking are the foundations of effective leadership.The Impact of Economic Challenges-Even during tough times, mental health support should remain a priority.-Stéphane urges leaders not to freeze or cut back on these efforts when challenges arise.-A strong mental health culture is not a luxury—it’s a necessity for resilience.Useful LinksHost: Christi's Web PageGuest: Mental Health InnovationsLighthouse NINE Group: WebsiteContributorsMusic: All The Fixings by Zachariah HickmanEditing: tribe74
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    24 分

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