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Episode 137 – Home sweet home

This week, Andy and Roger reflect on the public implosion of the Trump–Musk bromance. From awkward pop-up Teslas at the White House to roughhousing black eye excuses, the duo dissect the circus of politics, ego, and ketamine. Roger claims he “called it,” while Andy questions whether predicting a Trump–Musk fallout is really much of a flex.

The pair consider what comes next for Musk—is it a new political party, another podcast pivot, or just more lonely billionaire vibes? They touch on the Coalition's shaky post-election divorce and the ongoing identity crisis of Australia's political right, before returning to the Middle East to assess whether public opinion on Israel’s military strategy has turned a corner.

To wrap things up, the boys offer some levity: power-ballad solos, Switch 2 nostalgia, 1000-episode milestones, nostalgic redskins (now Red Rippers), the White Lotus, and the age-old Australian tradition of meat trays.

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Episode 136 – Free gift

This week, Andy and Roger get philosophical (and slightly sentimental) in a gift-themed episode that celebrates turning 40 and the unwrapping of both literal and metaphorical presents. Things start with a surprisingly heartfelt moment as Roger gifts Andy the coveted SM7B microphone, prompting a dissection of male gift-giving rituals, hobby disparities between the sexes, and how middle-aged men justify new gear.

From there, they get stuck into a string of “life lessons” masquerading as birthday gifts: the joys of embracing change, the existential panic of midlife purpose, and a spirited defence of carbonara as a peak human experience. There's musings on cognitive dissonance, emergent order, and why YouTube reaction videos are the new Shakespeare.

Also on the docket: Katy Perry’s fall from pop culture grace, shower frequency ethics, the tyranny of San Remo pasta, and a public service announcement about a Minecraft-related cinema phenomenon.

It’s deep, it’s messy, it’s occasionally profound—and as always, they’re probably oversharing.

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Episode 135 – Experts strike back

In this episode, Andy and Roger dive into a thorny question that’s split friendships, inflamed group chats, and possibly lost them a few listeners: can you actually trust experts? Picking up where a previous debate left off, the pair discuss whether expertise is real, relevant, or just overrated.

Andy poses six pointed questions to Roger, teasing out his views on medical authorities, local versus institutional knowledge, and the thorny balance between statistical outcomes and personal risk. Along the way, Roger skewers nutritionists and chiropractors, and revisits his pandemic-era frustrations with vaccine advice—particularly when it came to kids.

The conversation spans personal anecdotes, thought experiments involving government trade-offs, and the limits of academic detachment. No experts were harmed in the making of this episode. Probably.

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Episode 134 – UK Reform

In this episode, Andy and Roger take on a listener question from George in the UK, who’s puzzled by political divergence across the Anglosphere. Why is Farage resurgent in Britain while progressive governments cling on elsewhere? The lads give it a go—Roger reluctantly, Andy enthusiastically (with his best Rory Stewart impersonation).

They explore why Australia’s compulsory and preferential voting systems might be the unsung heroes of political stability, contrast the class divide in the UK with Australia’s anti-elitist ethos, and suggest the Brits may just be a little too fond of protest voting. There’s also time for a good old whinge about gloomy post-war British architecture and a solid plug for Australian-style democracy.

Naturally, they manage to reference Westminster real estate and Tommy Robinson-adjacent YouTube videos along the way. No royalists were harmed in the making of this podcast.

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Episode 133 – Harry's back

Andy and Roger are back with a whinge-fuelled episode, turning their attention once again to everyone's favourite Californian exile, Prince Harry. Following a dramatic BBC interview in which Harry pleads for reconciliation with his royal family, the duo dissect the contradictions, media strategy (or lack thereof), and the persistent petulance of the prince formerly known as HRH.

They dive into Harry’s comparisons to Indigenous truth and reconciliation movements, his ongoing obsession with security arrangements, and the broader implications for royal protocol. Roger questions whether anyone’s sat him down with a decent therapist, while Andy argues the taxpayer shouldn’t be footing the bill for personal grievances. There's talk of media monetisation, monarchy boundaries, and whether Charles should just drown the whole thing in syrupy affection. Plus: should William go full “kneel before Zod” on his younger brother?

Also featuring Meghan Markle, jam, Jack in the Box, Montecito mansions, and Scooby-Doo-adjacent royal reporters.

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Episode 132 – Red wedding

In this episode, Andy and Roger grapple with the fallout from Australia’s federal election, likening the Coalition’s crushing defeat to a political "Red Wedding." The mood is both sombre and sharp as they dissect why the Albanese Labor government cruised to a landslide win — and why that victory feels, to some, undeserved.

They reflect on the fate of Peter Dutton’s Coalition and the looming impact of MAGA and Trump. Together, they explore the fragmentation of the Coalition’s "broad church," the rise of the Teal independents, and whether Australian politics risks becoming stagnant in the face of dominant majorities.

The duo also muses on the challenges facing the opposition: should they embrace radical change or attempt to rebuild a fractured centre-right? And did Labor really romp in the vote? What does their low primary vote mean for its future direction — emboldenment or caution?

If you’ve ever wondered what a post-election hangover sounds like, this is it.

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Episode 131 – Gaza

This episode starts, as all thoughtful geopolitical episodes should, with a frank discussion about celibacy, incels, and collector’s edition virgins. After a full 15 minutes of deeply inappropriate speculation, Andy and Roger pivot—perhaps too smoothly—into a serious, structured debate about the Israel–Gaza conflict.

They run a series of increasingly pointed statements at each other, looking for common ground on a topic often defined by its polarisation. Do Palestinians have a right of return? Can Israel defend itself without creating more terrorists? Is Hamas an idea more than an organisation? And has Netanyahu prolonged the war for his own political gain?

Through their usual blend of logic puzzles, dry detours, and actual attempts at diplomacy, they explore moral ambiguity, strategic miscalculations, and what it really means to “hold the middle” in a time of war. The episode doesn’t offer easy answers—but at least no one got shushed this time.

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