In this episode, Michael Dargie sits down with author, editor, and writing mentor Deborah Ager, founder of Radiant Media Labs. Based in Maryland, Deborah helps business leaders, professionals, and creatives translate their decades of knowledge into books that clarify, inspire, and connect.

This episode is sponsored by my new book BRANDJITSU, helping you find, shape, and share your story with the world.

Deborah shares how her work evolved from marketing consultant to book coach—and how a single ghostwriting project opened a door she didn’t expect. Now, she guides clients through a process she calls “Clarify, Storify, Amplify,” giving them the structure and strategy they need to write books that build brands, careers, and legacy.

She opens up about how poetry, language precision, and her own creative practice inform her work—and how joy, not perfectionism, is the secret ingredient to finishing. Whether you’re stuck at page one or polishing your manuscript, this episode is full of practical wisdom, thoughtful metaphors, and writer-to-writer solidarity.

Quotable quotes

“Editing is revision—but it’s also revisioning.”

“That thing you feel awkward about? It might be your superpower.”

“Just creating can feel very good—even if no one ever sees it.”

“Words have nuance. Choosing the right ones can change everything.”

“Discernment will help you move forward faster.”

Episode highlights

From Marketing to Memoirs | How Radiant Media Labs got its start

Ghostwriting to Book Coaching | The power of clarifying other people’s ideas

Editing as Joyful Revisioning | How to make peace with the hard parts

Mindset Matters | Why joy and process go hand in hand

Not Everyone Will Like It | And that’s okay

Knowing Your Reader | Why audience clarity changes everything

The Poetry Edge | Precision of language as a business advantage

Clarify, Storify, Amplify | Deborah’s signature 3-part writing framework

A Perfect Deborah Day | Creativity, conversation, and long walks

What Deborah Reads | Essays, hybrid memoirs, and story-rich nonfiction

Guilty Pleasures | Gardening, lake walks, and sharing food with wildlife

Creating for Joy | Letting go of judgment and loving the process

Rebels in Waiting | Discernment is the rebel’s best friend

Black-Eyed Peas & Greens | Deborah’s go-to comfort food

Dreambook Launcher | A free tool to help you start your book

Links from the episode

Radiant Media Labs Website (https://radiantmedialabs.com)

Deborah Ager on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahager)

BrandJitsu Book (https://brandjitsu.com)

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