In this episode, we dive into the environments that fuel our best work, the luxury of staying ahead, and the mindset shifts that help us keep going. We reflect on learning to trust ourselves, overcoming perfectionism (“Perfectionism is better spelled paralysis” – Winston Churchill), and embracing where we are while recognizing how far we've come. From Kobe Bryant’s lessons in discipline to the importance of taking risks in life, career, and money, this conversation is all about persistence, self-belief, and the power of consistency. Plus, we ask: what if we were 52 weeks ahead on the podcast? Tune in for an inspiring, thought-provoking episode!

1:00 What environment do you do your best work in?

4:30 the luxury of being ahead on the podcast

6:00 How’s your heart? & learning to trust yourself

10:00 the power that comes from not giving up

14:00 “Perfectionism is better spelled paralysis” -Winston Churchill

16:30 this podcast is just two guys doing a Rick Rubin impression

19:00 The excitement of having things to look forward to

20:15 Embrace where you’re and recognize how far you’ve come

22:00 The power of seeing our consistency pay off

26:44 Learning a lesson from Kobe Bryant and the 2008 USA basketball team

28:55 Life is all about taking risks, in money, in your career, in your personal life

31:00 what would it be like to be 52 weeks ahead on the podcast

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