Are you looking for a steady, dependable friend who always remembers birthdays, follows through on commitments, and shows up when it counts? Then you need an SJ friend! In this episode, we explore the Guardian temperament (SJ types: ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)—the friends who hold everything together with their structure, loyalty, and strong sense of responsibility.

But just like every type, SJs have friendship strengths and struggles. While they’re incredibly reliable and thoughtful, they can also be overly rigid, controlling, or struggle with emotional connection and encouragement.

Join me as we break down the SJ friend using the TRUE friendship framework: ✅ True – Their unmatched loyalty and dependability—but also their struggles with control and holding grudges. ✅ Respect – How SJs show up for others but sometimes struggle with boundaries or taking on too much responsibility. ✅ Understanding – The difference between emotionally attuned SFJs and logical, solution-focused STJs (and how that impacts listening and empathy). ✅ Encouragement – Why SJs show support through actions rather than words—and why SFJs may need reassurance but struggle to ask for it.

Whether you’re an SJ, have an SJ friend, or just want to deepen your understanding of different friendship dynamics, this episode is packed with insights, humor, and practical takeaways. Tune in now!

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Wendy Gossett helps parents understand their children by using temperament psychology and neuroscience. She has over 10,000 hours of experience in education, both in the classroom and corporate sector. Even though she holds a Master’s degree in education, she struggled to understand her neurodivergent and oppositional kids. Inspired by her experience using Myers Briggs and the Enneagram with business teams, she spent over a decade researching temperament pattens to help family teams. She is a best-selling author and host of the Not So Normal Parenting podcast.

Her podcast is entitled Not So Normal Parenting because not only are she and her kids neurodivergent but some of her life experiences, such as driving off a cliff her wedding night and going viral for embarrassing her seventeen-year old son by dancing on a snowy and jammed interstate, fall into that category. In addition to being talked about by Hoda Kotb, the BackStreet Boys, and Princess Kate, even U2 singer Bono mentioned the incident in his autobiography.

Because Wendy herself has struggled as a helicopter parent, a cranky parent and an embarrassing parent, she wants to help other parents struggle……..a little bit less!