In this ep we dive into the quieter ACOTAR Chapter 16 with lots of conversations! Tamlin and Feyre debrief after the Suriel/Naga experience and we discuss the first inklings and clues about the romance, how Tamlin is starting some moves and what he's really thinking! Why does Tamlin talk like he knows Feyre's dad? Is this the turning point where he finally decides to go for it (instead of Lucien's plan according to our theory)?!?

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In this week's episode, we get into the scene with the Naga! Lots of really interesting description and potential for crossover here and we get into it all! Who is the Dark Mother? What are the Naga? And what do they want with the Suriel??

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

01:02–Description of naga (Are they ridderak? Something else?)

02:57–Who is the Dark Mother??

05:24–The SURIEL is the “gift” sent by the Dark Mother and Feyre is just the meal!

06:31–Kaltain is the Suriel theory and discussion about what the Suriel is/how it’s made/born, etc

08:01–What powers do Suriel actually have? Is their power “truth”? Is Mor a Suriel?? (Game of Thrones spoilers lol?)

09:45–Is the Dark Mother just Amarantha? Plus, Amarantha name discussion

12:33–Feyre seeing the “real” enemies already

13:19–Three-faced goddess vs Dark Mother vs The Mother discussion

14:51–What is the Suriel’s “dark wind” power? Connections to Lorcan, Rhys, or Hunt?

19:08–Feyre hesitating to kill because she doesn’t want to get extra trapped in the Treaty lol

19:57–Thorns imagery

20:28–Losing the Suriel COST the Naga greatly! What does it mean??

27:05–Lydia?? Lol. And deer/wolf imagery discussion

29:20–Starborn power? “A white hot flame”

31:26–”Not like this” (Is this Rhys in her head??)

33:33–Tamlin saving her!

34:23–When does Tamlin begin to care about her?

37:25–Feyre’s aversion to Tamlin

37:48–Healing powers

39:21–Narcissist and why Feyre makes sense being 19

42:35–Why should she have guessed he’s a High Lord?

44:46–Theme of home

47:27–Feyre already seeing the bigger picture

52:13–Tamlin and Amarantha mates discussion

55:27–Rhys valg discussion

57:56–Closing and outro song

**ACOTAR SPOILERS** In this episode, we discuss Feyre’s first meeting with the Suriel! We start with an opening question about what we would ask the Suriel about the Maasverse and then we tear the scene apart. What does it mean that the Suriel is “older than the bones of this world”? Why does Feyre differentiate between her and the part of her that is “human” here? Is Feyre seeing through glamours a bit more because people were trying to stop her? We also see some foreshadowing (hindsight is 20/20) of her being bored/trapped in the Spring Court already. Then we discuss the Kaltain theory, the High Lord’s power and the Suriel’s power (is it “truth”?) and who does the Suriel consider his “brethren”? Which family is the Suriel talking about and did he really mean Rhys or did he just kinda go with it when he sees her in ACOMAF lol. We end with a discussion about what kind of purpose the naga would have for the Suriel as we look to next week’s Chapter 15 discussion.

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Episode Overview:

00:00–Intro song, episode intro and summary

00:30–Opening question: What would you ask the Suriel about the Maasverse??

01:57–Is Azrael mateless?

02:30–Nesta made her own mate bond (and general mates discussion)

05:12–Aedion tangent (yes a tangent before we even begin discussing the chapter@)

06:36–No one stopped Feyre from carrying a dead chicken around the manor

08:56–What does Lucien think the Suriel can do to help (because why does he let her go?)

09:35–If Feyre knew about the curse, would she have been able to make herself fall in love to break it?

12:01–Feyre can feel the magic of the ancient forest “in her bones”

13:24–Only the “human part” of Feyre is afraid right now (what other part is there??!)

14:20–Feyre has interesting instincts about the “High Lord’s Consort”

16:37–She’s already bored of the Spring Court

19:03–She feels trapped too!

20:06–Rhys’ twisted xray vision tangent

21:00–Discussion about the “ripple of silence” that precedes the Suriel24:12–Suriel vs reapers from CC

24:32–Suriel is burned…like Kaltain was?

26:14–The FIRST watery bowels mention!

27:33–The Suriel and the color white

27:48–The Suriel on her influencer grind!

28:22–The Suriel’s voice?

29:48–Who does the Suriel mean when it says “my brethren”?

30:44–Why does everyone know Feyre’s mom better than her??

31:10–Is the Suriel saying her actual family or her future found family will die if she doesn’t stay with the High Lord?

32:15–Is the Suriel’s power “truth”? Seeing fate or multiple timelines? How he know stuff??

34:06–The High Lords ARE power discussion

35:59–The Suriel is “older than the bones of this world”

36:58–Did the Suriel actually, really mean Rhys…? Did he just “go with it” lol

39:29–Even the Suriel knows she’s trapped with TamTam

40:03–Suriel straight up tells her to watch out for Hybern

41:54–Back on our Lucien suspicions (we’re sad about it tho lol)--yes this one is OUT there

47:22–Suriel is afraid to be caged because it’s actually Kaltain!

49:36–What will the naga “use” the Suriel for?

51:20–Closing and outro song