Steve and I discuss the requirements for something to be an iconic moment. I ponder why Kirk Gibson's homerun in the clinching game in 1984 is not as well known as his Game 1 homerun in 1989.

We use that example as a basis to discuss what makes a moment iconic. I ask if Freddie Freeman's grand slam will be iconic if the Dodgers lose (we now know they did not, so is it iconic?)

Others discussed, Tigers, Yankees, Aaron Judge, Mike Stanton, Juan Soto, Padres, Giants, Angels, Oakland A's, Canseco, McGwire, Rickey Henderson, Dennis Eckersley.

Steve postulates the biggest sports rivalry is Dodgers - Yankees outside of Lakers - Celtics.

I argue that Dodger fan can give a rip about the Yankees and they believe their hated rival is the Astros.

I explain to Steve that LA fandom in order is Lakers, USC, and then the Dodgers. He is not buying it.

We discuss the recency of Dodger rivals and if what Steve believes is true.

We give homage to the man that sparked Fernando-Mania.

Other names and topics mentioned: Juan Soto, Aaron Judge, Mike Stanton, Gerrit Cole, Carlos Rodon, Freddy Freeman, Shohei Otani, Mookie Betts, Los Angeles, New York

Apologies, I had some personal issues I needed to attend to and with all the travel and things going with both Steve and me, it just made it difficult to make things happen.

We discuss the advent of the Opener or Bullpen Game as the baseball playoffs are in full swing.

We discuss 1sts round QBs and I play a game with Steve having him give a quick score on 1st round QBs.

Steve asks me about VA coach Tony Bennett calling it quits.

Discussed: Dodgers, Willie Mays, Giants, Alex Smith Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford. Others