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  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode 39 Beneath the Holiday Cheer: A Candid Conversation on Grief with Dr. Jessica Rabon, PhD
    2024/11/25

    Navigating Holiday Grief with Dr. Jessica Raven In this episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor speaks with Dr. Jessica Raven, a licensed psychologist from South Carolina, about the complexities of experiencing grief during the holiday season. They discuss how grief manifests in various forms, such as death and non-death losses, and offer practical strategies for coping, including setting boundaries, creating new traditions, and finding support. This episode is a resource for those who are grieving or supporting someone in grief, providing insights on managing emotions, honoring loved ones, and navigating family dynamics during one of the most challenging times of the year.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal

    00:28 Meet Dr. Jessica Raven

    00:39 Grief During the Holiday Season

    03:55 Navigating Traditions and Nostalgia

    08:16 Emotional Challenges of the Holidays

    11:41 Practical Strategies for Coping

    18:07 Supporting Others in Grief

    30:21 Self-Care During the Holidays

    33:24 Family Traditions in Different Settings

    35:30 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

    37:03 Conclusion and Resources

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    Dr. Jessica Rabon is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in pediatric psychology. Her clinical interests include depression, anxiety, chronic medical illnesses, LGBTQ+ health, and eating disorders. She has published a number of peer-reviewed research papers and a book on topics such as suicide, depression, anxiety, self-compassion, gratitude, and forgiveness. Additionally, Jess creates mental health content on TikTok and Instagram and hosts two podcasts, Psych Talk and Welcome to Group Therapy, with the goal of making mental health more accessible and relatable, and destigmatizing mental health.

    Instagram: @jessicaleighphd

    TikTok: @jessicaleighphd

    Threads: @jessicaleighphd

    Podcasts: Psych Talk & Welcome to Group Therapy

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

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    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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    39 分
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #38 Griefaversaries & My Brother Garrett
    2024/11/18

    Navigating Grief-Aversaries and Honoring Loved Ones: A Personal Journey

    In the latest episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor explores the profound concept of 'grief-aversaries,' drawing from her personal experience of losing her brother 15 years ago. She recounts how her family's annual gatherings evolve, the meaningful rituals they've established, and the challenges of navigating grief over time. Dr. Taylor shares valuable insights into coping mechanisms, the importance of community, and personalized approaches to honoring loved ones on significant dates. This episode aims to normalize the grieving process and provide listeners with tools and strategies to manage their grief in their own unique ways.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal

    00:25 Personal Story: The Loss of My Brother

    01:46 Family Gatherings and Grief Rituals

    04:12 Memories and Reflections

    13:02 Coping Strategies and Self-Care

    14:37 Understanding and Embracing Grief

    19:54 Changing Grief Over Time

    22:53 Conclusion and Upcoming Projects

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

    All Rights Reserved.

    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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    25 分
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #37 The Prelude to Authenticity: Navigating Anticipatory Grief Before Coming Out with Miriam Cornell, LMFT
    2024/11/11
    Anticipatory Grief and Coming Out: A Conversation with Miriam Cornell, LMFT In this episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor is joined by Miriam Cornell, LMFT from Minneapolis. They discuss the intersection of grief and the coming out process. Miriam shares their personal journey as a bisexual, non-binary individual and their professional experience working with clients navigating religious trauma and queer identities. The episode also explores anticipatory grief, the emotional complexities of coming out, and strategies for self-care and community support. Key takeaways include understanding the ongoing nature of coming out, validating feelings of grief, and the importance of supportive relationships. 00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal 00:28 Meet Miriam Cornell: A Journey in Mental Health 01:26 Navigating the Coming Out Process 03:07 Understanding Anticipatory Grief 07:55 Emotional Complexities of Coming Out 14:38 Support Strategies for the Coming Out Process 22:38 Self-Care and Community Building 27:06 Advice for Partners and Support Networks 31:19 Key Takeaways and Conclusion -------------------------------------- Miriam Cornell, MA, LMFT (they/them) is a therapist with Transcend Psychotherapy (https://transcendpsychotherapy.com/team/miriam-cornell/). You can follow them @expanding_circles on Instagram. Navigating mental health struggles can feel lonely and be isolating. One of the reasons I believe that therapy works is the opportunity to provide a new and meaningful connection as the foundation on which to create long-lasting change. I work from a systemic and attachment-based lens. I understand our mental health struggles to be interconnected with many aspects of our past and current life circumstances and relationships. I want to work with you to identify any unhelpful patterns, learn new ways of interacting, and find meaning in your life story while looking toward the future with hope. I am especially passionate about mental health struggles in the LGBTQ+ community with a specific area of interest in processing religious experiences. For many in the community religion has been particularly harmful. Whether you choose to re-engage or disengage, I can walk alongside you to help you identify, evaluate, and deconstruct unhealthy and harmful patterns with the hope and goal of finding a sense of ease in relating to this chapter of your life. ------------------------------------------ I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process. https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com hello@griefisthenewnormal.com Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter https://www.themourningmovement.com hello@themourningmovement.com We have our upcoming Grief and the Holidays webinar on November 14th! Be sure to sign up or share with someone who may need extra support this upcoming holiday season. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grief-the-holidays-virtual-webinar-tickets-1048206051517?aff=ebdsshcopyurl&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=organizer-profile&utm-share-source=organizer-profile ------------------------------------- Opening Music by The Dadicorns Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor All Rights Reserved. This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.
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    34 分
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #36 When Grief Redefines Us: Navigating Change in Identity with Sitara Marin, LMHC
    2024/11/04

    In this episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor speaks with licensed mental health counselor Sitara Marin about the complex interplay between grief and identity. They discuss how shifting roles, titles, and expectations in the wake of both death and non-death losses can impact one's sense of self. Sitara introduces her adapted tier model of grief, emphasizing the importance of acceptance, processing, and integrating both old and new identities. The conversation offers valuable insights and practical strategies for managing grief, maintaining self-care, and supporting loved ones through identity transitions.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal

    00:26 Meet Sitara Marin: Licensed Mental Health Counselor

    02:32 Understanding Identity Loss in Therapy

    05:20 The Tier Model: A New Approach to Grief

    06:54 Navigating Non-Death Losses

    19:14 Self-Care and Compassion in Grief

    24:22 Supporting Loved Ones Through Identity Transitions

    28:55 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

    33:10 Closing Remarks and Resources

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    Sitara Marin is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor and Sex Therapist living in Seattle. She obtained her Masters in Counseling from Northwestern University and her Masters in Spiritual Psychology from the University of Santa Monica. She has her own private practice based in Seattle, WA where she works with individuals 16 years and older to delve deep into their psyche and recreate their identities using various modalities such as PsychoDynamic, Existentialism, and Sex Therapy. When Sitara isn't swimming in the sea of the Unconscious she can be found playing board games with her family, going on culinary adventures, and sleeping in!

    https://www.sitaramarintherapy.com/

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

    We have our upcoming Grief and the Holidays webinar on November 14th! Be sure to sign up or share with someone who may need extra support this upcoming holiday season. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grief-the-holidays-virtual-webinar-tickets-1048206051517?aff=ebdsshcopyurl&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=organizer-profile&utm-share-source=organizer-profile

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

    All Rights Reserved.

    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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    35 分
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #35 The Grief No One Talks About: The Disenfranchised Grief of Abortion with Christine Slomski, LPC
    2024/10/29

    Navigating Grief and Abortion with Compassion

    In this episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor welcomes Christine Slomski, a licensed professional counselor and reproductive grief specialist. Together, they explore the complex and nuanced relationship between abortion and grief. Christine shares her professional and personal journey in this field, discussing the importance of recognizing and validating the multifaceted nature of reproductive loss. The episode emphasizes the need for safe, compassionate spaces for those grieving an abortion and offers practical advice for self-care and seeking support. Listeners are encouraged to remember that grief is deeply personal and valid, regardless of the circumstances.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal

    00:25 Meet Christine Slomski: Counselor and Reproductive Grief Specialist

    01:13 Understanding Reproductive Grief Care

    02:09 Today's Topic: Abortion and Grief

    02:50 Christine's Journey to Specializing in Reproductive Grief

    04:18 The Complexities of Abortion Loss

    14:29 Challenges in Receiving Support

    19:36 Self-Care and Support Strategies

    22:21 Processing and Externalizing Grief

    25:52 Key Takeaways on Abortion and Grief

    29:18 Christine's Projects and Closing Remarks

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    Christine Slomski is a Licensed Counselor and EFT Tapping Practitioner in Arizona. She has a passion to support women in their healing journeys and to help grieving individuals find solace and strength after loss. In addition to providing counseling services, Christine runs a clinical support group for women called the Healing Circle, a place to receive support following an abortion experience.

    Christine Slomski: https://www.christineslomski.com/ Healing Circle Support Group: https://www.christineslomski.com/healing-circle

    Confidential & clinical online resource for processing your abortion experience in solitude, anonymously: https://yourabortionexperience.org/en

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

    We have our upcoming Grief and the Holidays webinar on November 14th! Be sure to sign up or share with someone who may need extra support this upcoming holiday season. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grief-the-holidays-virtual-webinar-tickets-1048206051517?aff=ebdsshcopyurl&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=organizer-profile&utm-share-source=organizer-profile

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

    All Rights Reserved.

    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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    32 分
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #34 Why Postpartum Isn't All Bliss: Unpacking the Grief No One Warns You About with Hannah Carlsrud, LMHCA
    2024/10/21

    Why Postpartum Isn't All Bliss: Unpacking the Grief No One Warns You About with Hannah Carlsrud, LMHCA

    In this episode, Dr. Heather Taylor, a psychologist and grief specialist, engages in a profound discussion with Hannah Carlsrud, LMHCA, regarding the multifaceted experiences of postpartum life. They delve into the emotional challenges of transitioning into motherhood, such as the loss of one's pre-baby identity and the subsequent impact on personal and familial relationships. The conversation highlights the importance of support systems, therapy, and, when necessary, medication in navigating these changes. The episode also addresses societal misconceptions and the gaps in postpartum care, underscoring the necessity for extended and holistic support for new mothers. With insights on managing postpartum grief, balancing self-care, and fostering healthy relationships, this discussion provides essential perspectives and practical advice for both new mothers and those who support them.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief and Motherhood

    00:30 Meet Hannah Carlsrud: Specializing in Peripartum and Postpartum

    02:00 Understanding Postpartum Grief

    05:37 Impact of Postpartum Grief on Relationships

    12:19 Persistent Postpartum Challenges and Support Strategies

    16:19 Exploring Therapy and Support Systems

    16:36 Medication Management and Societal Challenges

    17:52 Postpartum Care and Societal Expectations

    20:05 Impact of COVID-19 on Postpartum Support

    21:05 Grieving the Pre-Motherhood Self

    24:06 Navigating Relationship Changes Post-Baby

    26:31 Key Takeaways for Postpartum Grief

    28:07 Therapy Offerings and How to Connect

    30:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    Hannah is the owner of Carlsrud Psychological Services and provides therapy for individuals and couples, specializing in the perinatal time (from fertility issues to postpartum, and parenting). She integrates EMDR as a trauma treatment approach and offers weekly therapy as well as therapy intensives in her practice.

    Hannah Carlsrud, M.A., LMHCA

    Owner at Carlsrud Psychological Services

    hello@carlsrudpsychologicalservices.com

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

    We have our upcoming Grief and the Holidays webinar on November 14th! Be sure to sign up or share with someone who may need extra support this upcoming holiday season. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grief-the-holidays-virtual-webinar-tickets-1048206051517?aff=ebdsshcopyurl&utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=organizer-profile&utm-share-source=organizer-profile

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

    All Rights Reserved.

    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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    32 分
  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #3 Beyond Stages: Exploring Grief Through Our Nervous System
    2024/10/15

    Grief is the New Normal: Embracing Nonlinear Grief with Polyvagal Theory In this enlightening episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor redefines the grieving process by integrating Deb Dana's polyvagal theory and the dual processing model. She challenges the traditional stage-based models of grief, presenting instead an understanding of how the nervous system—through ventral vagal, sympathetic, and dorsal vagal states—manifests grief. Emphasizing the nonlinearity of grief, Dr. Taylor discusses the oscillation between deep emotional grief states and restorative activities, secondary losses, and grief bursts. She offers practical advice on building continuing bonds with deceased loved ones and navigating grief with compassion. The episode underscores that grief is a highly personal journey, highlighting the importance of community, acceptance, and adaptation.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal

    00:26 Polyvagal Theory and Grief

    00:54 Updating Episode Three

    01:15 Understanding Grief in Society

    02:14 The Nonlinear Nature of Grief

    03:24 Polyvagal Theory: The Ladder of Grief States

    04:11 Sympathetic State: High Alert

    05:06 Dorsal Vagal State: Withdrawal

    06:03 Navigating the Nervous System Ladder

    07:02 Hospice Work and Grief Counseling

    09:46 Navigating the Depths of Grief

    09:59 The Dual Processing Model of Grief

    10:39 Understanding Grief States

    11:49 Secondary Losses and Grief Bursts

    12:53 The Nonlinear Nature of Grief

    14:51 Meaning Making and Continuing Bonds

    15:49 Wrapping Up: Embracing the Grief Journey

    18:20 Final Thoughts and Resources

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

    All Rights Reserved.

    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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  • Grief is the New Normal Podcast: Episode #33 A Wave of Light on October 15th: Honoring Pregnancy & Infant Loss Through Collective Grief w/ Rebekah Thompson, LMHCA
    2024/10/14

    In this episode of 'Grief is the New Normal,' Dr. Heather Taylor, a grief psychologist, is joined by Rebekah Thompson, her former doctoral student, who shares her personal and professional journey through infant loss. With the upcoming Pregnancy & Infant Loss Awareness Day on October 15th, Rebekah offers insights into understanding and honoring this often misunderstood type of grief. They discuss the importance of community support, the complexity of emotions associated with losing a child, and how society can become more inclusive and compassionate towards grieving parents. Practical strategies for navigating milestones and providing tangible support to those experiencing loss are also shared. Listeners are encouraged to participate in events like the wave of light and reflect on personal ways to memorialize lost ones. Light a candle on October 15th at 7pm your time and join the wave of light around the world.

    00:00 Introduction to Grief is the New Normal

    00:26 Meet Rebekah Thompson: A Journey Through Grief

    01:45 Rebekah's Personal Story of Infant Loss

    04:44 Understanding the Emotions of Infant Loss

    07:07 Shifting the Narrative Around Infant Loss

    11:10 Supporting Grieving Parents: Practical Advice

    21:11 Memorializing and Honoring Lost Infants

    25:03 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

    26:53 Conclusion and Resources

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    Rebekah Thompson received her Master’s in Counseling Psychology from Northwest University in 2022 and became a licensed mental health counseling associate the same year. She is currently finishing her last year of clinical training for her Doctorate. Bekah enjoys working collaboratively with individuals and couples from a client/person-centered lens, while utilizing interventions from various therapeutic modalities (CBT, DBT, strengths-based and positive psychology).

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    I'm Dr. Heather Taylor, a licensed, PsyPact psychologist based out of Washington state. I've been practicing grief therapy since 2012 and am passionate about changing the narrative of grief in our current cultural climate. Grief is a universal lived experience and as such needs to be something we talk about without the taboo attached. I hope you'll join me as we work to adjust to the new normal we are living in and support one another in that process.

    https://www.griefisthenewnormal.com

    hello@griefisthenewnormal.com

    Dr. Taylor is also a co-founder of 'The Mourning Movement,' with Jen Reisinger, LMHC. The Mourning Movement aims to create spaces for grief education and community support to reduce isolation and stigma around grief. Be sure to sign up for more modern grief insights and resources at https://themourningmovement.myflodesk.com/resourcesandnewsletter

    https://www.themourningmovement.com

    hello@themourningmovement.com

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    Copyright 2024 Grief is the New Normal: A podcast with Dr. Heather Taylor

    All Rights Reserved.

    This podcast is meant for educational and entertainment purposes only. The information discussed in this podcast is not a replacement or substitute for therapy.

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    28 分