Have you ever wondered what pastors really think when the mic is off and the church lights are dimmed? In this episode, Jason and Nicole open up about the joys, heartbreaks, and surprises of ministry life—especially in small-town Appalachia. From counseling at midnight to preaching with a broken heart, they peel back the curtain on what it’s like to live as both shepherds and humans.

This is an honest, grace-filled conversation for:
🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Church members who want to love their pastors better
🙏 Pastors who feel unseen and stretched thin
🌱 People curious about the faith without the performance

Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this episode offers encouragement, a few laughs, and a deeper look into the lives of those called to lead.

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Parenting is hard. Parenting in ministry? Even harder. Parenting in ministry in Appalachia? That’s a whole new level. In this episode, Jason and Nicole open up about the beautiful, chaotic, and sometimes laugh-to-keep-from-crying realities of raising kids while serving the church. From awkward moments to spiritual formation in everyday life, this honest conversation explores what it means to parent with grace when you feel like you’re winging it most of the time. Whether you’re a parent, a pastor, or both, you’ll find yourself nodding, laughing, and maybe even breathing a little easier knowing you’re not alone.

Listen in for laughs, real talk, and a reminder that God shows up in the mess — even if your kids don't eat the potatoes.

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In this deeply personal kickoff episode, we hear his story--Jason--one that begins in a small Indiana town and weaves through the joys and griefs of growing up with a father battling Huntington's Disease. From childhood wonder in the church to answering a call to ministry, through the halls of Kentucky Mountain Bible College and into a first marriage shaped by damaging theology and military life--this is a testimony of calling, heartbreak, healing, and redemption. You'll laugh, reflect, and maybe even see parts of your own story in his.

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