It has been a few years since Google DeepMind CEO and co-founder, Demis Hassabis, and Professor Hannah Fry caught up.

In that time, the world has caught on to artificial intelligence—in a big way. Listen as they discuss the recent explosion of interest in AI, what Demis means when he describes chatbots as ‘unreasonably effective’, and the unexpected emergence of capabilities like conceptual understanding and abstraction in recent generative models.

Demis and Hannah also explore the need for rigorous AI safety measures, the importance of responsible AI development, and what he hopes for as we move closer towards artificial general intelligence.

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Further reading:

• Gemini
• Project Astra
• Google I/O 2024
• Scaling Language Models: Methods, Analysis & Insights from Training Gopher
• LaMDA: our breakthrough conversation technology

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:

Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry

Series Producer: Dan Hardoon

Series Editor: Rami Tzabar, TellTale Studios

Commissioner and Producer: Emma Yousif

Production support: Mo Dawoud

Music composition: Eleni Shaw

Camera Director and Video Editor: Tommy Bruce

Audio Engineer: Darren Carikas

Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke

Video Editor: Bilal Merhi

Video Production Design: James Barton

Visual Identity and Design: Eleanor Tomlinson

Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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