In a world gripped by fear of loss, Emma Stark, Phil Sanderson, and Louise Reid unleash a powerful prophetic word about God's counter-intuitive strategy: exile and the stripping away of status. This episode of What the Prophets Say challenges the comfortable Western Christian mindset, revealing how the Lord uses seasons of shaking, discipline, and even national shifts to draw His people into unprecedented revelation, intimacy, and a truer form of glory. Discover why losing your position might be the best thing for you and how to pray strategically when your world is shaken.

Key Prophetic Themes and Topics Covered:

• The Concept of Exile: A deep dive into biblical exile, from the Garden of Eden to national exiles in Israel's history (Egypt, wilderness, Babylon).
• Purpose of Exile: Understanding exile as a divine process of correction, discipline, and purification, leading to spiritual growth and closer relationship with God.
• Western Christian Perspective: Challenging the "fat Christian" mindset of comfort and entitlement in the West, contrasting it with the norm of hardship for many global believers.
• Shifting Global Order: Addressing the current geopolitical shifts and the loss of status for Western nations, linking it to prophetic insights like Haggai 2 ("I will shake once more the heavens and the earth").
• Prayer in Exile: Practical guidance on how to pray and what to focus on when experiencing personal or national exile – emphasizing prayer for restoration, revelation, and character development.
• Revelation in Exile: Highlighting how figures like Daniel and Ezekiel received profound, apocalyptic visions and encountered God in new ways during their exile, indicating a unique opportunity for revelation.
• Beyond Comfort and Status: Redefining God's "goodness" to include discipline, loss, and difficult journeys, leading to greater spiritual richness rather than material comfort.
• Biblical Illiteracy: A call to deeper engagement with Scripture to understand God's methods and purposes in times of difficulty, rather than subscribing to "theologically light" beliefs.
• Hope in Hardship: Encouraging a mindset of hope and transformation during exile, viewing it as a season for growth and preparation for greater glory, rather than just enduring pain.

Practical Takeaways or Action Steps for the Audience:

• Reframe loss and discomfort as opportunities for deeper encounter with God and spiritual growth.
• Pray for revelation and character development during challenging seasons.
• Engage deeply with Scripture, particularly books like Ezekiel and Daniel, to understand God's purposes in exile.
• Avoid the temptation to seek immediate comfort or escape from difficult periods; instead, embrace the discipline.
• Live with a "bright hope for tomorrow," making choices today that align with God's transformative purposes.

Hosts: Emma Stark, Phil Sanderson, Louise Reid

In this rich and often humorous conversation, Emma, Phil, and Louise unpack what God truly means by leadership — contrasting worldly authority with the biblical model of rulership that looks more like gardening than domination. They share personal stories from their Irish childhoods (including firework misadventures!), then dive deep into mantles of leadership, the shock when leaders fall, and the crucial need for an authentic inner life.

Key takeaways include:

• Biblical leadership is about tending, nurturing, and bringing fruitfulness — not controlling others.
• Leaders must steward their private life with honesty and death to self, casting crowns before God rather than seeking earthly applause.
• Honor and appreciation for leaders is healthy — but becomes toxic when shaped by worldly entitlement or obsession with awards.
• True leaders must learn to laugh at themselves and stay humble.
• As Phil reminds: “If you get your claim here on earth, you’re sacrificing it in heaven.”

This episode is a clarion call for leaders to live congruently before God and people — gardening souls, stewarding truth, and resisting the temptation of earthly rewards.

In this bold prophetic conversation, Emma Stark, Louise Reid, and Phil Sanderson reveal why Romans 1:16 — “I am not ashamed of the gospel” — is the defining verse for the next 7 years of the Church. With piercing insight, they call the global body of Christ out of decades of shame and into a movement marked by emotional power, mass salvations, and authentic transformation. If you’ve felt the tension between cultural compromise and kingdom truth, this episode will ignite you to live unashamed and full of gospel fire.

📒 Show Notes

Hosts:

• Emma Stark
• Louise Reid
• Phil Sanderson

Key Topics Covered:

• Romans 1:16 as a Prophetic Pivot: Why this verse is central to the next 7-year epoch in the church.
• The End of Shame: How a generation of believers has corporately carried shame about the gospel—and how God is removing it.
• Bold Evangelism: Not just for evangelists. Everyone is called to be unashamed in this next move of God.
• Emotional Shift: The need to pray for emotional transformation — from shame to joy and eagerness for the gospel.
• Salvation Beyond Heaven: The gospel isn’t just about eternity — it brings healing, deliverance, and transformation now.
• From Mercy to Grace: Why grace doesn’t just neutralize sin but empowers us to live fully transformed lives.
• Same-Sex Attraction & Transformation: A bold prophetic call to not just abstain but be truly transformed by God’s power.
• Historical Context: How the church’s seeker-friendly movement and individualism contributed to 40 years of watered-down gospel expression.