In a world gripped by fear of loss, Emma Stark, Phil Sanderson, and Louise Reid unleash a powerful prophetic word about God's counter-intuitive strategy: exile and the stripping away of status. This episode of What the Prophets Say challenges the comfortable Western Christian mindset, revealing how the Lord uses seasons of shaking, discipline, and even national shifts to draw His people into unprecedented revelation, intimacy, and a truer form of glory. Discover why losing your position might be the best thing for you and how to pray strategically when your world is shaken.

Key Prophetic Themes and Topics Covered:

• The Concept of Exile: A deep dive into biblical exile, from the Garden of Eden to national exiles in Israel's history (Egypt, wilderness, Babylon).
• Purpose of Exile: Understanding exile as a divine process of correction, discipline, and purification, leading to spiritual growth and closer relationship with God.
• Western Christian Perspective: Challenging the "fat Christian" mindset of comfort and entitlement in the West, contrasting it with the norm of hardship for many global believers.
• Shifting Global Order: Addressing the current geopolitical shifts and the loss of status for Western nations, linking it to prophetic insights like Haggai 2 ("I will shake once more the heavens and the earth").
• Prayer in Exile: Practical guidance on how to pray and what to focus on when experiencing personal or national exile – emphasizing prayer for restoration, revelation, and character development.
• Revelation in Exile: Highlighting how figures like Daniel and Ezekiel received profound, apocalyptic visions and encountered God in new ways during their exile, indicating a unique opportunity for revelation.
• Beyond Comfort and Status: Redefining God's "goodness" to include discipline, loss, and difficult journeys, leading to greater spiritual richness rather than material comfort.
• Biblical Illiteracy: A call to deeper engagement with Scripture to understand God's methods and purposes in times of difficulty, rather than subscribing to "theologically light" beliefs.
• Hope in Hardship: Encouraging a mindset of hope and transformation during exile, viewing it as a season for growth and preparation for greater glory, rather than just enduring pain.

Practical Takeaways or Action Steps for the Audience:

• Reframe loss and discomfort as opportunities for deeper encounter with God and spiritual growth.
• Pray for revelation and character development during challenging seasons.
• Engage deeply with Scripture, particularly books like Ezekiel and Daniel, to understand God's purposes in exile.
• Avoid the temptation to seek immediate comfort or escape from difficult periods; instead, embrace the discipline.
• Live with a "bright hope for tomorrow," making choices today that align with God's transformative purposes.

Hosts: Emma Stark, Phil Sanderson, Louise Reid

In this rich and often humorous conversation, Emma, Phil, and Louise unpack what God truly means by leadership — contrasting worldly authority with the biblical model of rulership that looks more like gardening than domination. They share personal stories from their Irish childhoods (including firework misadventures!), then dive deep into mantles of leadership, the shock when leaders fall, and the crucial need for an authentic inner life.

Key takeaways include:

• Biblical leadership is about tending, nurturing, and bringing fruitfulness — not controlling others.
• Leaders must steward their private life with honesty and death to self, casting crowns before God rather than seeking earthly applause.
• Honor and appreciation for leaders is healthy — but becomes toxic when shaped by worldly entitlement or obsession with awards.
• True leaders must learn to laugh at themselves and stay humble.
• As Phil reminds: “If you get your claim here on earth, you’re sacrificing it in heaven.”

This episode is a clarion call for leaders to live congruently before God and people — gardening souls, stewarding truth, and resisting the temptation of earthly rewards.

In this bold prophetic conversation, Emma Stark, Louise Reid, and Phil Sanderson reveal why Romans 1:16 — “I am not ashamed of the gospel” — is the defining verse for the next 7 years of the Church. With piercing insight, they call the global body of Christ out of decades of shame and into a movement marked by emotional power, mass salvations, and authentic transformation. If you’ve felt the tension between cultural compromise and kingdom truth, this episode will ignite you to live unashamed and full of gospel fire.

📒 Show Notes

Hosts:

• Emma Stark
• Louise Reid
• Phil Sanderson

Key Topics Covered:

• Romans 1:16 as a Prophetic Pivot: Why this verse is central to the next 7-year epoch in the church.
• The End of Shame: How a generation of believers has corporately carried shame about the gospel—and how God is removing it.
• Bold Evangelism: Not just for evangelists. Everyone is called to be unashamed in this next move of God.
• Emotional Shift: The need to pray for emotional transformation — from shame to joy and eagerness for the gospel.
• Salvation Beyond Heaven: The gospel isn’t just about eternity — it brings healing, deliverance, and transformation now.
• From Mercy to Grace: Why grace doesn’t just neutralize sin but empowers us to live fully transformed lives.
• Same-Sex Attraction & Transformation: A bold prophetic call to not just abstain but be truly transformed by God’s power.
• Historical Context: How the church’s seeker-friendly movement and individualism contributed to 40 years of watered-down gospel expression.

What if we’ve misunderstood the Kingdom of God? In this striking episode of What the Prophets Say, Emma and David Stark cut through religious assumptions to reveal what the Kingdom truly is and what it is not.

They dive into the reality of Jesus’ leadership, exploring how He responded to badly behaved disciples. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!

Want to step into the next level of the prophetic? Visit https://www.propheticscots.com/shop to buy Emma’s powerful new book Becoming the Voice of God, and receive the Biblical instruction and training you need to fully step into your anointing.

We’re building a home for our growing movement of prophetic warriors like you! Will you join us financially in creating a visionary resource centre? This centre will serve as a broadcast and recording facility, creating cutting edge content of truth and training to the world. Visit www.propheticscots.com/give to donate today.

Emma and David Stark get personal as they share their journey with God into unchartered waters. Learn about birthing churches, closing churches and following the Spirit of God into brave and bold experimentation. If you have ever had a dream or urge to build or open something for the kingdom of God, you’ll want to listen to this episode!

Want to step into the next level of the prophetic? Visit https://www.propheticscots.com/shop to buy Emma’s powerful new book Becoming the Voice of God, and receive the Biblical instruction and training you need to fully step into your anointing.

We’re building a home for our growing movement of prophetic warriors like you! Will you join us financially in creating a visionary resource centre? This centre will serve as a broadcast and recording facility, creating cutting edge content of truth and training to the world. Visit www.propheticscots.com/give to donate today.

In this deep reflection on the trials Christians face all over the world, Emma Stark and David Stark explore what is exile, how to pray in it and why hungry people don’t tolerate gimmicks in church. Make sure to tune in to find out how to apply the four Ps - Presence, Purpose, People and Place, to your church!

Chapters

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04:00 Praying In Exile

11:45 Persecution Faced By Believers

13:13 What Is Exile?

18:15 How Pain Drives Prodigals Back To The Father

20:00 The UK Church In Exile

23:36 The American Church In Exile

24:40 Four Questions To Ask

30:30 Church Take Its Place

32:40 Role Of A Prophet

35:30People Hungry For God

Want to step into the next level of the prophetic? Visit https://www.propheticscots.com/shop to buy Emma’s powerful new book Becoming the Voice of God, and receive the Biblical instruction and training you need to fully step into your anointing.

We’re building a home for our growing movement of prophetic warriors like you! Will you join us financially in creating a visionary resource centre? This centre will serve as a broadcast and recording facility, creating cutting edge content of truth and training to the world. Visit www.propheticscots.com/give to donate today.

Fire must be part of our Christian walk! Emma Stark and Louise Reid are back to discuss the dangers of cultural Christianity, why hype is not a Holy Spirit encounter and the joy of being a wise virgin in modern times. Full of vital teaching, prophecy and encouragement, don’t miss this exciting conversation.

Learn to identify and kick out demonic influences affecting your life and reclaim your spiritual authority with Emma Stark’s powerful Demonbusting: Reclaiming The Land ecourse. Visit https://www.enlivenmedia.org/demonbusting2 to become equipped to fight spiritual battles with confidence and Biblical wisdom. It’s time to step into spiritual authority!

We’re building a home for our growing movement of prophetic warriors like you! Will you join us financially in creating a visionary resource centre? This centre will serve as a broadcast and recording facility, creating cutting edge content of truth and training to the world. Visit www.propheticscots.com/give to donate today.

Have you felt the urge to move house, jobs or even nations? Prophets Emma Stark and Louise Reid are here to share the four words you need to know for this season! From navigating loss and fear in this time, to keeping pace with God, get equipped with what you need to know for your today!

Learn to identify and kick out demonic influences affecting your life and reclaim your spiritual authority with Emma Stark’s powerful Demonbusting: Reclaiming The Land ecourse. Visit https://www.enlivenmedia.org/demonbusting2 to become equipped to fight spiritual battles with confidence and Biblical wisdom. It’s time to step into spiritual authority!

We’re building a home for our growing movement of prophetic warriors like you! Will you join us financially in creating a visionary resource centre? This centre will serve as a broadcast and recording facility, creating cutting edge content of truth and training to the world. Visit www.propheticscots.com/give to donate today.